Re: [yang-doctors] guideline for enum and value?
"Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> Thu, 25 January 2018 10:57 UTC
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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] guideline for enum and value?
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I agree with Juergen. I also believe when the enum corresponds to some standard value (e.g., IETF address families), there is significant advantage in preserving that value in the YANG enum. Thanks, Acee On 1/25/18, 3:38 AM, "yang-doctors on behalf of Juergen Schoenwaelder" <yang-doctors-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 09:18:27AM +0100, Benoit Claise wrote: > Dear all, > > Still busy with the RFC6087bis AD review, reviewing the enum sections now. > > Do I recall correctly a guideline about not using "value" in enum? > Something to be inserted in RFC6087bis? At least a pros and cons discussion? > I would rather say the opposite: YANG automatically assigns numeric values to enums if no values are specified. This automatic assignment requires that (a) the order of enums never changes and (b) additional enums are only appended but never prepended or inserted. This is subtle and using explicit value assignments, though more verbose, tends to be more robust when modules are revised. Background: Note that NETCONF and RESTCONF do not send the numeric values due to the way the XML and JSON encodings are defined. But this may be different for other encodings, the proposed CBOR encoding uses the numeric value. Some implementations do support mappings to protocols such as SNMP where numeric values are used. We had a longer discussion about this when we talked about how we deal with timezones, which change regularly and have no natural numeric value. Algorithms to produce YANG enumerations from the timezone databases are difficult if you want to have stable numeric values. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/> _______________________________________________ yang-doctors mailing list yang-doctors@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors
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- Re: [yang-doctors] guideline for enum and value? Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [yang-doctors] guideline for enum and value? Acee Lindem (acee)
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