Re: [YANG] new pyang errors
Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net> Wed, 23 January 2008 05:32 UTC
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To: Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@cesnet.cz>
Subject: Re: [YANG] new pyang errors
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Ladislav Lhotka writes: >Relying on common universal >defaults would make the system fragile. As will shipping voluminous defaults. Visibility into defaults is a distinct issue from carrying the defaults in the configuration database. If I have an object with 50 fields where only 2 or 3 are set on each instance, carting around fully-fleshed configs will be incredibly annoying. My view of configuration is that if you set it, it should be there. If you didn't set it, it shouldn't be there. If you want extra information, ask for it. But the normal view of configuration should be restricted to only what the user or application expressed configured. This leads directly to my interpretation of "mandatory". A mandatory config statement is one that some user or application must expressly configure. If the configuration is valid without the statement, then it's not mandatory. The "mandatory"-ness describes the interaction between the device and applications configuring it. If the application must create the statement, then the statement is mandatory. The "mandatory plus default" interpretation Andy's using is more of a description of the interaction between the on-box management software and the other on-box software components. IMHO this is less interesting and more internals that YANG should be describing. Thanks, Phil _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang
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