Re: [YANG] new pyang errors
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@cesnet.cz> Fri, 25 January 2008 11:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: [YANG] new pyang errors
From: Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@cesnet.cz>
To: Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
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Hi Balasz, Balazs Lengyel píše v Pá 25. 01. 2008 v 12:19 +0100: > Mandatory in YANG means mandatory to configure. > Today YANG considers all mandatory and optional elements mandatory to implement. > > Later we will probably define a conformance mechanism, then YANG will be able to say: > > module foo defines 100 leafs and these 85 are mandatory to implement and the rest is optional. > > We consider this conformance mechanism to belong to step to in the DML. AFAIK it is not really > used in SNMP either. (We could start using mustImplement or something similar as a term for > mandatory to implement.) I guess it's actually one of the differences between the SNMP and XML worlds. Validity of an XML document means conformance to a schema. Lada > > Balazs > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Phil Shafer píše v Pá 25. 01. 2008 v 01:14 -0500: > >> "Randy Presuhn" writes: > >>> In the SNMP/SMI worlds, the "optionality" Ladislav refers to is > >>> handled by conformance statements, rather than the model per se. > >> Ah so maybe the confusion is "mandatory to implement" versus > >> "mandatory to configure". YANG's mandatory statement is the latter. > > > > Oh yes, this is the Pudels Kern :-) I am sorry I wasn't able to express > > myself so concisely. However, I still think Sec. 7.6.4 in the YANG draft > > can be understood as "mandatory to implement": >>If "mandatory" is > > "true", the node must exist in a valid configuration if its parent node > > exists.<< I guess it's again due to the different meanings of validity. > > > > Lada > > > >> YANG has no conformance mechanism. Whether it appears in YANG-2.0, > >> I can't predict, but I'm hoping we can make base models that devices > >> can implement, with augmentations for additional config. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Phil > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> YANG mailing list > >> YANG@ietf.org > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang > -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang
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