Re: [YANG] default values
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@cesnet.cz> Wed, 16 January 2008 14:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [YANG] default values
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Andy Bierman píše v St 16. 01. 2008 v 06:08 -0800: > YANG has the "DEFVAL with teeth" that SMIv2 never had. > In YANG the default MUST be supported by the agent. > It is not just a suggestion. This means the manager can > actually pay attention to the default defined in the data model, > and change it only if needed. I understand this but, as a matter of fact, most defaults in protocol standards are of the SHOULD class at most. In a vendor-neutral environment, it would be much safer if each device fills all the blanks. > > On large NE devices, it is common practice to keep the CLI config file > as small as possible by only including non-default values. NETCONF > needs to support this feature as well, and YANG leaf/typedef default does that. Yes, but this is only possible because the CLIs are vendor-specific. It is quite common that different vendors use different defaults. If you try to enforce a single default in the data model, the vendor that thinks otherwise will come up with an entirely new data model (namespace URI) which is IMO much worse for interoperability. Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang
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