Re: [YANG] mandatory empty
Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> Mon, 04 February 2008 19:47 UTC
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Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com> wrote: > Hi, > > What does this mean exactly? > > leaf foo { > type empty; > mandatory true; > } > > Does this translate to: > > <element name='foo' minOccurs='0'/> No, b/c the default type in XSD is anyType, which means any xml. And if it's mandatory, it should be minOccurs='1' (which is the default). But it depends on what your XSD is supposed to validate - a NETCONF PDU or the datastore. I translate this into: <xs:element name="foo"> <xs:complexType/> </xs:element> > The empty data type can be modeled in XSD as an empty complexType: > > <complexType name='empty'/> Yes. > Can it be modeled as a simpleType? > > <simpleType name='empty'> > <restriction base='xs:string'> > <maxLength value='0'/> > </restriction> > </simpleType> I don't know. Maybe? > If mandatory means that the manager must supply a value, > then the leaf 'foo' can never be missing. > > Even if it means the agent must supply a value, > it still seems strange. Perhaps more text is needed > about the empty data type. > > IMO, 'mandatory' and 'units' are not applicable to built-in type 'empty'. I agree that units on a type empty seems weird. mandatory true on type empty also seems weird, since a type empty leaf provides a single bit of information (in its existance). So if it always has to be there, what is the point? I don't know if we have to make this an error though. /martin _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang
- [YANG] mandatory empty Andy Bierman
- Re: [YANG] mandatory empty Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [YANG] mandatory empty Phil Shafer