Re: [YANG] new pyang errors
Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net> Wed, 23 January 2008 06:00 UTC
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To: "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [YANG] new pyang errors
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:59:50 -0500
From: Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net>
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"Randy Presuhn" writes:
>Strongly disagree. Operationally, one needs to be able to
>determine what the configuration actually *is*, regardless of
>whether it was ever expressed by a user or application.
One can use alternative views ("with-defaults") or external information
(YANG modules) to acquire this information. The main target of
configuration remains (and will remain for some time) the human
users. Verbose configurations breed confusion and most of my efforts
in my day job are targeted to simplifying configurations and reducing
the volume of data human users need to look at.
>This is sufficient to configure a device, but it's not
>configuration management.
I don't follow you here. Please explain how the alternative
interpretation of "mandatory" aids in configuration management.
Is the "with-defaults" view key to a good solution?
Thanks,
Phil
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