Re: [YANG] new pyang errors
Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net> Sat, 19 January 2008 17:39 UTC
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To: Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com>
Subject: Re: [YANG] new pyang errors
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From: Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net>
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Andy Bierman writes:
>The current draft clearly says that 'mandatory true' refers to the
>configuration database, not to whether the manager must provide
>an explicit value.
>I agree with the interpretation in the current draft.
Well, you agree with your interpretation of the draft ;^)
The issue isn't whether a leaf with a default has to appear
in any particular PDU, but whether a leaf with a default
"exists" until some{one,thing} creates it. If leafs (and
non-presence containers) are automagically created "in the
configuration database", then configurations become big
and verbose, which is the opposite of what I want. So
I don't want leafs with defaults to be considered "created".
And when I read the draft with that prespective, it agrees
with me. So the draft is underspecified. What outcome do
we want and what do need to add to the draft to ensure there
is only one possible reading of our spec?
Thanks,
Phil
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