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Re: [v6ops] IPv10 Discussion in v6ops

Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> Mon, 14 September 2020 18:19 UTC

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From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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Thread-Topic: [v6ops] IPv10 Discussion in v6ops
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv10 Discussion in v6ops
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You are free to say what want, but if you are incorrect, then you deserve the consequences, this means that if a group of people will "admit" they approve to work on this draft, then expect a good result.

I can't imagine that for v6ops participants to keep saying NO, No, and no but in different styles and they don't give the alternative solution that can help the IETF and IESG and whatever inside the group in addition to the community.

Khaled Omar

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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> 
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv10 Discussion in v6ops

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, Khaled Omar wrote:

> Is there someone from any vendor (Cisco, Huawei, Juniper, etc......) 
> read the draft and interested in taking the draft forward to the 
> standard phase? Please add your names here.

Contact some (local) universities and see if someone is willing to work on your proposal and create a proof of concept implementation if you're not capable of coding it yourself.

Come back to the IETF when you have running code and share your experience and the discussion might be different.

Until then you'll just get the same answer.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

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