[alto] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-cost-calendar-09: (with DISCUSS)

Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 05 December 2018 21:53 UTC

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Alvaro Retana has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-alto-cost-calendar-09: Discuss

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This is a process DISCUSS.

This document replaces draft-randriamasy-alto-cost-calendar, but this
information is not reflected in the datatracker.  The individual draft has an
IPR declaration attached to it [1], but the failure to link the two documents
has resulted in the IPR indication not carrying over.   The direct effect is
that the IETF Last Call [2] explicitly says that "No IPR declarations have been
submitted directly on this I-D."

The Shepherd writeup says that "The entire author team has confirmed
conformance with BCP 78/79 with the shephered." -- but that doesn't indicate
whether IPR is present or not, just conformance.  In looking through the
mailing list archive, I couldn't find mention of the IPR at adoption [3] [4] or
at WGLC [5].

The declaration was made early in the process [6], and there was no discussion
in the WG about it.  I can see how it would be easy to overlook.

Nonetheless, it is necessary for the WG (and the IETF as a whole) to explicitly
consider the declaration before proceeding with the publication of this

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2392/
[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/LI01TfoTCnJRDImEUXA-9x8KsZ4
[3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/xFErWArHhpF-0ZVR_1BAhgzRj3k
[4] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/-D7cj6qoD-Q3ye3rpuj8li2xWms
[5] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/67W_XuMfu7JMXQEEZFLkulw_xBI