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Re: [art] [Anima] Artart telechat review of draft-ietf-anima-grasp-11

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 11 May 2017 00:47 UTC

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To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [art] [Anima] Artart telechat review of draft-ietf-anima-grasp-11
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On 11/05/2017 09:18, Martin Thomson wrote:
> On 11 May 2017 at 05:25, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>> GRASP does not stand alone.
> 
> 
> I have to assess the document on its own merits.  As already
> established, there are no normative dependencies on any sort of key
> management.
> 
> That this work has been done suggests that perhaps a small change to
> the structure of this and other documents could be made to rectify the
> problem.

The ACP will now be a normative reference for GRASP. It's the ACP whose
trust model depends on the security bootstrap, which will therefore need
to be a normative reference for the ACP.

How trust is established when there is no ACP is explicitly out of scope,
see section 3.5.2.1.

    Brian

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