Re: [calsify] Proposed Errata for RFC 7986: COLOR property with arbitrary RGB values

Andrew Laurence <atlauren@me.com> Fri, 29 June 2018 16:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [calsify] Proposed Errata for RFC 7986: COLOR property with arbitrary RGB values
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Users use colors to represent all sorts of known-to-them metadata. They care *deeply* about color assignment and fidelity.  When we moved from a calendar system that let users assign colors according to criteria (Boss is organizer? Red! Description contains "Lunch"? Green!) to one that didn't, I heard about it for *ten* years.

While preparing for the June 2017 CalConnect, I surveyed users about issues with calendars.  It came up *again*, in the context of wanting to choose colors and have them remain the same across clients.

-Andrew

> On Jun 29, 2018, at 12:12 AM, Neil Jenkins <neilj@fastmailteam.com> wrote:
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> I wasn't involved in the original discussion, but I have a vague recollection from seeing the emails go by that this was intentional: the theory was clients are not going to use the actual colour you specify as they will want to pick something that goes with their branding + background + event display design, so by using names they could then choose their "version" of the colour that was closest in spirit to the name given.
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> Not sure I agree with this reasoning, but I think that was the idea.
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