Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-randomness-improvements-08.txt

Richard Outerbridge <outer@interlog.com> Wed, 04 December 2019 17:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-randomness-improvements-08.txt
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Ditto, ditto.
__outer

> On 2019-12-04 (338), at 11:07:55, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>; wrote:
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> Most people will be familiar with hardware crypto devices, such as HSM’s.  Sure, lots of things out there, from keyless SSL to NetHSM, but optimize for the common case.
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