Re: [clouds] Strawman CloudApps BoF (proposed for IETF-80) Agenda

<david.black@emc.com> Sun, 30 January 2011 00:34 UTC

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Here's a hint from an IETF process perspective - remove item -3-, and roll a small piece of it into item -4-.   The primary purpose of a BoF is to get to a WG charter (or decide that a WG is not appropriate).  Handing out presentation slots to every possibly relevant I-D mostly serves to reduce the time available for that purpose.

Thanks,
--David (storm WG chair, past chair of other IETF WGs, has been through a number of BoF experiences ...)
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From: clouds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:clouds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bhumip Khasnabish
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Subject: [clouds] Strawman CloudApps BoF (proposed for IETF-80) Agenda


Strawman CloudApps BoF Agenda
(Early draft)
-1- Introduction by chairs
-2- Problems and Open issues

a)      Potential CloudApps workitems and use cases

b)      Discussion on level of interest
-3- Scope and requirements of the work in IETF

a)      Presentation of other I-Ds related to survey, framework, and gaps

b)      Presentations on I-Ds related to requirements and proposed solutions of a handful of potential workitems

c)      Prioritization of work items
-4- Discussion of potential charter

a)      Presentation of a draft charter & list of deliverables by chairs

b)      Discussion on the draft charter
-5- Consensus and debates

a)      Problem description and the need to solve them

b)      Workitems to solve in IETF and consensus on descriptions

c)      Contributors, reviewers and editors

d)      Update the proposed charter to reflect the consensus

e)      Decision on the formation of the working group

Best Regards.

Bhumip Khasnabish (Mobile:+001-781-752-8003, vumip1@gmail.com<mailto:vumip1@gmail.com>)
http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhumipkhasnabish