RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay
Black_David@emc.com Fri, 07 July 2000 18:52 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay
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> So, just so I am clear. If I have 2 classes of service and one tunnel > for both, and packets are out of order, you are saying that it is the > IPSec anti-replay windows problem? The solution is a tunnel per class of > service. That's one possibility. Here's the complete story -- IF (1) You have two classes of service AND (2) You want to run them in IPSec tunnel mode AND (3) You want them differentiated in a way that reorders packets within the tunnel AND (4) You want to use IPSec anti-replay protection AND (5) You want to use a single tunnel. THEN you have a problem, because the last three items cannot in general be done at the same time without having the IPSec anti-replay protection complain or worse. There are three possible solutions based on which item is left out: (A) Leave out (3) by marking the same class of service on the outer IP headers even though there are multiple classes carried in the tunnel. There will be no packet reordering within the tunnel. (B) Leave out (4) by not configuring IPSec anti-replay protection. (C) Leave out (5) by using a tunnel per class of service that you want differentiated. This uses additional resources to support the additional tunnels. Again, please check the text in draft-ietf-diffserv-tunnels-01.txt, which is in informal last call at the moment. The text in Sections 5.1 and 5.2 is supposed to address *exactly* this issue - if the text is not sufficiently clear, I need to make it so, and would appreciate suggestions. Thanks, --David --------------------------------------------------- David L. Black, Senior Technologist EMC Corporation, 42 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 +1 (508) 435-1000 x75140, FAX: +1 (508) 497-6909 black_david@emc.com Cellular: +1 (978) 394-7754 --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ diffserv mailing list diffserv@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/diffserv Archive: http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/diff-serv-arch/
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- RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Black_David
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Scott Fanning
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Black_David
- RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Scott Fanning
- RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Black_David
- RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Black_David
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Praveen Muley
- RE: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Black_David
- Re: [Diffserv] ToS, IPSec and Anti replay Brian E Carpenter