Re: [dmarc-ietf] Meeting in Prague (IETF 99)

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Tue, 30 May 2017 01:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Meeting in Prague (IETF 99)
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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
wrote:

> We've had one request for a DMARC session in Prague, with no further
> response from the working group.
>
> We've had one suggestion for an interop test in Prague, with no
> further response from the working group.
>

Yes to both. AFAIK, Steve Jones has been in touch with the hackathon
organizers to have ARC added to the slate. Both Steve and I will be coming
to Prague and several others from the group are expected as well. We also
want to meet with the IETF tools folks to arrange an assisted upgrade to
the IETF listserv to enable ARC signing.

>From my POV, the ARC spec is close to "done". There are a few details that
are turning up from new sets of eyes looking at it as implementations are
built but so far, nothing substantive. I'll have new versions after my
flights at the end of the week (protocol & usage).

To me, the biggest point of discussion has to do with the hypothetical next
milestone for the group which is currently called out as "document[ing]
operational practices..." (the _Draft Guide on DMARC Usage_). While I
understand that was viewed as "something that we could do" when the group
was chartered, I doubt the need for it as an IETF document as time has
passed. I think that discussing the next steps of the group would be
apropos in a F2F meeting.

--Kurt