Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)
Evan Hunt <each@isc.org> Thu, 09 July 2015 03:11 UTC
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From: Evan Hunt <each@isc.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)
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On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 09:50:09PM -0400, Warren Kumari wrote: > Less flippantly, it is in this email: > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/msg13004.html I > don't think that we have a really good motivation for a week, other > than that is feels sort of like a good, human scale timeframe to > recheck on things. We really want there to be a limit on the lifetime, > a week felt right... Yep, that's pretty much it, right there. A day isn't enough (we had feedback from customers to this effect) but anything longer than a week strikes me as much too likely to fall off operators' radar. Though the limit is arbitrary, I do believe that we need to assert *some* limit, on this approximate time scale. > but, I still like "because Evan said so..." Yes let's definitely document it that way. "... MUST NOT exceed a week, due to the whimsical and capricious nature of Evan. Pray he does not alter the deal any further." -- Evan Hunt -- each@isc.org Internet Systems Consortium, Inc.
- [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-iet… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft… Jaap Akkerhuis
- Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft… Livingood, Jason