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Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-ter-01.txt

Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Thu, 25 July 2019 14:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-ter-01.txt
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Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
>
> I dislike Do53, because then we should really have Do53-over-TCP as DoT
> and Do53-over-https as DoH. If we call it "DNS-over-TCP" than really
> what we are doing is running (classic) DNS over TCP, and we shouldn't
> midway the discussion rename "DNS" to "Do53".

These abbreviations are about identifying the transport that is being used
for the DNS messages. One problem with Do53 is that it isn't specific
about the transport, because it covers both UDP and TCP. But it's a handy
abbreviation for DNS over traditional transports. It doesn't identify DNS
as a whole, just the framing of DNS messages in UDP and TCP.

Tony.
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