[DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech
Ben Schwartz <bemasc@meta.com> Mon, 30 September 2024 19:12 UTC
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From: Ben Schwartz <bemasc@meta.com>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, Paul Wouters <paul.wouters@aiven.io>
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OK, done: https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech/pull/16 ________________________________ From: Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2024 1:29 PM To: Ben Schwartz <bemasc@meta.com>; Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>; Paul Wouters <paul.wouters@aiven.io> Cc: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech.authors@ietf.org <draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech.authors@ietf.org>; <tls@ietf.org> <tls@ietf.org>; dnsop@ietf.org WG <dnsop@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [TLS] Re: [DNSOP] AD review draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech We could add a recommendation like "Clients using ECH SHOULD select a DNS resolver that they trust to preserve the confidentiality of their queries and return authentic answers, and communicate using an authenticated and confidential transport", We could add a recommendation like "Clients using ECH SHOULD select a DNS resolver that they trust to preserve the confidentiality of their queries and return authentic answers, and communicate using an authenticated and confidential transport", but this draft seems like an odd place for that text. When DNS SVCB has an ech entry, DNS is being used a little differently than your conventional DNS for ipaddress, since you can use TLS to authenticate what DNS told. For ECH you cannot. In other words, I think recommendation, or warning in security considerations, is exactly right for this document.
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-sv… Salz, Rich
- [DNSOP] AD review draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech Eric Rescorla
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-sv… Deirdre Connolly
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-sv… Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-sv… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-sv… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-sv… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: AD review draft-ietf-tl… Arnaud Taddei
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: AD review draft-ietf-tl… Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-sv… Deirdre Connolly
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: AD review draft-ietf-tl… Arnaud Taddei
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Salz, Rich
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Eric Rescorla
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Arnaud Taddei
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Salz, Rich
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-sv… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Eric Rescorla
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Salz, Rich
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review d… Erik Nygren
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review d… Rob Sayre
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Salz, Rich
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Stephen Farrell
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Erik Nygren
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Erik Nygren
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review d… Andrew Campling
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Arnaud Taddei
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Stephen Farrell
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review draft… Arnaud Taddei
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Eric Rescorla
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Salz, Rich
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Tim Wicinski
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Eric Rescorla
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Eric Rescorla
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Eric Rescorla
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review draft… Sean Turner
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review draft… Sean Turner
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Stephen Farrell
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review draft… Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review d… Erik Nygren
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review draft… Erik Nygren
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: AD review draft-iet… Dave Lawrence
- [DNSOP] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AD review d… Watson Ladd