Re: [Enum] ENUM Privacy Consensus, RFC 3824 and ENUM deployment

Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> Thu, 12 August 2004 00:49 UTC

From: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:49:24 -0400
To: Jim Reid <"jseng at pobox.org.sg">
Subject: Re: [Enum] ENUM Privacy Consensus, RFC 3824 and ENUM deployment
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At 01:53 PM 8/11/2004, Jim Reid wrote:
>>>>>
"James" == James Seng <jseng at pobox.org.sg>
writes:
    James> Privacy or not, proposed by Kim adds no
additional
    James> technical value beyond restriction what
people can put into
    James> their own sip boxes and enum
records.
This discussion is a dialogue of the deaf and it would be better if
it
terminated now as it's just going in circles. James, there are
serious
privacy and data protection issues surrounding ENUM. They may not be
a
concern in Singapore. But they are a concern in the EU. And 
probably
elsewhere too. These issues could also touch on competition policy
too: for instance when a telco/ISP controls an end-user's
NAPTRs.
Much of this stuff touches on legal issues that are far out of 
scope
for IETF. While I would like to see someone write up a draft on
these
concerns, it should not be necessary for the WG to work on it IMO.
Perhaps this hypothetical draft could be published as an
Informational
RFC. After all a solution to these concerns is inherently a 
National
Matter. The rules in various jurisdictions are likely to conflict 
or
even be mutually exclusive in some cases.
I dont find this discussion strange at all. I tried to out line it in my
privacy and security draft. A draft BTW I have been asking for input to
for quite some time.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-shockey-enum-privacy-security-00.txt
Ive been waiting for this to come up again and Kim's comments seem
perfectly in line with my comments.
why would anyone see a conflict between two possible AOR's
 sip:1234567 at domain.com the one I put
in the DNS and
sip:myfullname at domain.com the one I put on my business card



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