Re: [Extra] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-extra-sieve-special-use-04: (with COMMENT)

Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Thu, 10 January 2019 07:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Extra] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-extra-sieve-special-use-04: (with COMMENT)
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> Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-extra-sieve-special-use-04: Yes

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> Thanks to everyone who worked on this document. I have two minor suggestions for
> improvement.

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> ยง1:

> >  It also adds
> >  the ability to file messages into an anonymous personal mailbox that
> >  has a particular special-use attribute assigned using a ":specialuse"
> >  argument for the "fileinto" command [SIEVE].

> I was perplexed by the use of "anonymous" (here and elsewhere in the document),
> expecting it to be a term of art defined in some other RFC. I poked around at
> the plausible references and didn't find anything.

> After reading the rest of the document, I *think* the notion is that you're
> talking about a mailbox that is identified by its special-use attribute rather
> than its name.

Identified in the script. It does have a name.

> If that's the intention, it might be clearer to simply say
> "unnamed;" or, barring that, perhaps clarify in the Introduction what is meant
> by "anonymous."

I'm not wild about anonymous but unnamed doesn't seem like an improvement to
me. The mailbox does have a name and this kind of makes it sound like it
doesn't.

Maybe something like "mailbox identified only by" or something similar?

> (Yes, I get that "unnamed" and "anonymous" are technically synonyms, but
> "anonymous" typically is used as a term of art corresponding to personal
> anonymity in the context of communications, making its use confusing in this
> context without any additional explanation)

Also true.

				Ned