Re: [Extra] IMAP4rev2 , \recent and search new

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Tue, 29 October 2019 11:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Extra] IMAP4rev2 , \recent and search new
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On 28/10/2019 20:54, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:

> On Monday 28 October 2019 21:33:57 CET, Brandon Long wrote:
>> Using UNSEEN seems like a different type of lie, it is closer to what 
>> \Recent means... but since they both existed, one would think the 
>> difference between them may be what people consider useful.
>
> I suggested (optionally) aliasing it to UNSEEN since it seemed to me 
> that any client that issues SEARCH NEW would want the search resunt to 
> sometimes be nonempty.

Maybe we should just deprecate NEW and add some explanatory text?