Re: [gaia] Fun reading - a meat-lover or vegetarian better future Internet...? :)

["El Khatib, Yehia (elkhatib)" <[e-mail]>]

yes, Qarnot has been active in this field for a number of years already.

Another interesting and successful project is Cloud and Heat from Germany:
 https://www.cloudandheat.com/en/

/yehia



On 14/02/2017 18:47, "gaia on behalf of Arjuna Sathiaseelan"
<[e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]>
wrote:

>this is really cool!
>https://www.qarnot.com/qrad/
>
>regards
>
>On 15 December 2016 at 22:27, Arjuna Sathiaseelan
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>> You should be looking at Jussi's Hybrid Renewable Energy Routing for ISP
>> Networks (this year at Infocom paper) - where packets are forwarded
>>through
>> routers that have the highest renewable energy resource..
>>
>> but we can take this further -
>>
>> if you can shift computation around to devices where there is higher
>> renewable energy resource - look at the weather and if its sunny with a
>> certain temp - migrate the computation...
>>
>> interestingly most developing regions/emerging economies enjoy rather
>>hot
>> weather and have good renewable energy source - and if there are micro
>>data
>> centers or community cloud infrastructures - major service providers
>>could
>> offload computation there..ofcourse there are data regulations ;)
>>
>>
>> if you want to be further adventurous and be a bit more insane we can
>> proactively push computation around in communities based on energy from
>> human poop (biogas) and how we can probably tie data on the food ordered
>> online or in the fridge and predict how communities are going to poop
>>and
>> then proactively move computation around to use the bioenergy :)
>>
>> Btw - I still wonder why no one has yet thought of building a data
>>center in
>> the moon to offload non real-time computation!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On 15 December 2016 at 18:30, William Liu <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Laban, this is an efficient imagine J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ha…it triggers me another think: now it is summer of New Zealand, a
>>>party
>>> season of BBQing…while we use gas most, not sure if possible to be
>>>replaced
>>> with more renewable things such as solar/energy harvesting ways, my
>>>first
>>> question is (i) are they powerful and reliable enough to cook the food
>>> include veges and meat…? ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then an extended question is that, (ii) are they ‘hot’ enough to ‘cook’
>>> our interested ‘bits and bytes’…? In other words, are those renewable
>>>energy
>>> sources sufficient to power communications system such as routers or
>>>base
>>> stations…? GAIA needs to ‘eat’ electricity, a must…?  (iii) does the
>>>Global
>>> Access Electricity/Energy for All (GAEA) need to be an prerequisite for
>>> GAIA’s survival...?  then (iv) can we enable GAIA without GAEA or as
>>>less as
>>> possible of GAEA…or say a ‘vegetarian’ Internet…? ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The traditional printed medium such as books and newspapers, no need
>>> ‘electricity’ to read&learn…(v): can we have a printable (the key
>>>thing here
>>> is no need electricity to keep it readable) but also dynamic of content
>>> changeable and connect with others (might a DTN way?) Internet …? Is
>>>this a
>>> self-contradictory question? ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ha…this makes me feel ‘hungry’ for some energy knowledge and data in
>>>New
>>> Zealand*, just start tasting them….also feel a Good Wish just growing
>>>that
>>> to invite your GAIAers’ party (i.e., workshop/conference) coming to New
>>> Zealand or more specific say Auckland where my university is located
>>>one day
>>> so help imaging a vegetarian GAIA together…? In the challenged
>>>environment
>>> such as rural and developing regions… this might useful to enable GAIA
>>>out
>>> of electricity food constraints as much as possible so as to grow/live
>>>as
>>> faster/longer as possible…(vi) is this make sense for those GAIA
>>> practitioners and with any experience to share here, please? J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers Will from cloudy Auckland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Note: ha…eating the following ‘grass’ now J
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_New_Zealand
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>http://www.mbie.govt.nz/info-services/sectors-industries/energy/energy-d
>>>ata-modelling/publications/energy-in-new-zealand
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Laban Mwangi [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>> Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2016 3:26 AM
>>> To: Arjuna Sathiaseelan <[e-mail]>
>>> Cc: gaia <[e-mail]>; William Liu <[e-mail]>;
>>>Theophilus
>>> Benson <[e-mail]>
>>> Subject: Re: [gaia] Fun reading :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or perhaps it's simpler.. someone put up a platform for drying
>>>slippers...
>>> Oh! What do you know, it's pretty hot too!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 Dec 2016 23:34, "Arjuna Sathiaseelan"
>>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>> A picture is worth a thousand words :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so you can interpret the pic in many ways..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the actual fact is someone has put their slippers on the solar cell
>>>that
>>> was powering a water quality sensor - probably thinking the solar cell
>>> attracts more sun light :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> or if I am optimistic -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> someone is designing a next generation energy harvesting slipper that
>>>is
>>> capable of transferring energy from the solar cell to another source -
>>>the
>>> DTN way :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 December 2016 at 13:55, William Liu <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, what is that Thing: sounds a slipper on the solar panel (?), just
>>> beside a pool…? Can you ‘decrypt’ IT..? ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers Will@Auckland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: gaia [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Arjuna
>>>Sathiaseelan
>>> Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2016 2:15 AM
>>> To: Theophilus Benson <[e-mail]>
>>> Cc: gaia <[e-mail]>
>>> Subject: Re: [gaia] Fun reading :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> anything is possible in a developing region -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> an IoT example in Thailand - pic taken during my recent visit ;)
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/photos/SsDTsMbFp5ZmCE3u6
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 December 2016 at 12:28, Theophilus Benson <[e-mail]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Insane reporting … or amazing sales skills :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan
>>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
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