Re: [Gen-art] [tram] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-tram-stunbis-16

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Thu, 19 April 2018 01:56 UTC

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From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:56:07 -0400
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Dale, thanks for your reviews. Marc, thanks for your response. I have entered a No Objection ballot.

Alissa

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks again for the review.  Comments inline.
> 
> On 03/30/2018 04:45 AM, Dale Worley wrote:
>> Reviewer: Dale Worley
>> Review result: Ready with Nits
>> 
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>> Document:  draft-ietf-tram-stunbis-16
>> Reviewer:  Dale R. Worley
>> Review Date:  2018-03-29
>> IETF LC End Date:  2018-02-20
>> IESG Telechat date:  2018-04-19
>> 
>> Summary:
>> 
>>       This draft is basically ready for publication, but has nits
>>       that should be fixed before publication.
>> 
>> The only interesting item concerns section 17.1, where the assignment
>> of meanings to bits in the "security feature set" value is different
>> from the assignment in -16.  This is either non-upward-compatible with
>> -16, or there is an error in either -16 or -17.
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> There is an issue that shows up in several places:  The NAT may
>> forward the request using an IP family that is different from the IP
>> family that it received the request using.  This means that the
>> "source IP family of the request" may depend on whether one is
>> speaking of the client or the server.  The draft is cognizant of this,
>> and mentions its consequences in sections 6.3.3 and 12.  But this also
>> has consequences for ALTERNATE-SERVER:  Section 14.15 says "The IP
>> address family MUST be identical to that of the source IP address of
>> the request." even though that family might not be usable by the
>> client.  The draft doesn't seem to explicitly say that this comes from
>> address-switching by the NAT.  It would help if there was a
>> higher-level discussion of this matter, pointing to the various
>> consequences.
> 
> I still do not have text about that but, as this is blocking this response since 2 weeks now, I am releasing it as is and will come back to that after I process the other reviews that accumulated during my time traveling around Europe.
> 
>> 
>> 3.  Terminology
>> 
>> This section needs to be updated to reference RFC 8174, including
>> updating the paragraph (especially the final two lines) to read as
>> specified in RFC 8174:
>> 
>>      The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL
>>      NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED",
>>      "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as
>>      described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they
>>      appear in all capitals, as shown here.
> 
> Updated.
> 
>> 
>> 6.2.2.  Sending over TCP or TLS-over-TCP
>> 
>>   o  if multiplexing other application protocols over that port, has
>>      finished using that other protocol, and
>> 
>> The two clauses don't match in grammatical number.  This should be
>> either
>> 
>>   o  if multiplexing other application protocols over that port, has
>>      finished using those other protocols, and
>> 
>> or
>> 
>>   o  if multiplexing another application protocol over that port, has
>>      finished using that other protocol, and
> 
> Updated using the former.
> 
>> 
>> 9.2.4.  Receiving a Request
>> 
>>      *  If the request contains neither PASSWORD-ALGORITHMS nor
>>         PASSWORD- ALGORITHM, then the request is processed as though
>>         PASSWORD- ALGORITHM were MD5 (Note that if the original
>>         PASSWORD-ALGORITHMS attribute did not contain MD5, this will
>>         result in a 400 Bad Request in a later step below).
>> 
>> There are two places where s/PASSWORD- ALGORITHM/PASSWORD-ALGORITHM/.
> 
> Already fixed following a previous review.
> 
>> 
>> 14.3.  USERNAME
>> 
>>   The value of USERNAME is a variable-length value containing the
>>   authentication username.  It MUST contain a UTF-8 [RFC3629] encoded
>>   sequence of less than 509 bytes, and MUST have been processed using
>>   the OpaqueString profile [RFC8265].  A compliant implementation MUST
>>   be able to parse UTF-8 encoded sequence of less than 763.
>> 
>> The final "763" is grammatically incorrect.  I think you intend
>> s/763/763 bytes/, to parallel other items.
> 
> Fixed.
> 
>> 
>> 14.4.  USERHASH
>> 
>>   userhash = SHA-256(Opaque(username) ":" Opaque(realm))
>> 
>> I believe that this should be
>> 
>>   userhash = SHA-256(OpaqueString(username) ":" OpaqueString(realm))
> 
> Fixed.
> 
>> 
>> 14.5.  MESSAGE-INTEGRITY
>> 
>>   Petit-Huguenin, et al.  Expires September 6, 2018 [Page 40]
>> 
>>   Internet-Draft Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) March 2018
>> 
>> This bit of text appears as body text in the middle of page 40.
> 
> Already fixed following a previous review.
> 
>> 
>> 14.6.  MESSAGE-INTEGRITY-SHA256
>> 
>>   The MESSAGE-INTEGRITY-SHA256 attribute contains an HMAC-SHA256
>>   [RFC2104] of the STUN message.  The MESSAGE-INTEGRITY-SHA256
>>   attribute can be present in any STUN message type.  The MESSAGE-
>>   INTEGRITY-SHA256 attribute contains an initial portion of the HMAC-
>>   SHA-256 [RFC2104] of the STUN message.  The value will be at most 32
>>   bytes and MUST be a positive multiple of 4 bytes.  The HMAC MUST NOT
>>   be truncated below a minimum size of 16 bytes.  The value must be the
>>   full 32 bytes unless the STUN Usage explicitly specifies that
>>   truncation is allowed.  STUN Usages may specify a minimum length
>>   longer than 4 bytes.
>> 
>> This seems to be less clear than it could be.  (And my apologies, some
>> of the redundancy was my suggestion!)  Perhaps this is an improvement:
>> 
>>   The value will be at most 32 bytes, MUST be at least 16 bytes, and
>>   MUST be a multiple of 4 bytes.  The value must be the full 32 bytes
>>   unless the STUN Usage explicitly specifies that truncation is
>>   allowed.  STUN Usages may specify a minimum length longer than 16
>>   bytes.
> 
> Applied.
> 
>> 
>> 17.1.  STUN Security Features Registry
>> 
>>   A STUN Security Feature set defines 24 bit as flags.
>> 
>>   IANA is requested to create a new registry containing the STUN
>>   Security Features that are protected by the bid down attack
>>   prevention mechanism described in section Section 9.2.1.
>> 
>>   The initial STUN Security Features are:
>> 
>>   Bit 0: Password algorithms
>>   Bit 1: Username anonymity
>>   Bit 2-23: Unassigned
>> 
>> Beware that the assignment of features to bits in the security feature
>> value has changed!  Bit numbers are assigned from the left/high-order
>> end -- see figure 2 in the draft.  So the *values* for these bits are:
>> 
>> 0x400000   Bit 0: Password algorithms
>> 0x200000   Bit 1: Username anonymity
>> 
>> But the values assigned in -15 were:
>> 
>>   0x000001: Password algorithms
>>   0x000002: Username anonymity
> 
> Hmm, that was not the intent, and not how I read the text. Even in Figure 2 less significant bits are on the right.  So the intent is real tat bit0=0x001, bit1 =
> 0x002, and so on.  All we do is about interoperability, so I added some text that makes that less ambiguous.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Marc Petit-Huguenin
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