[hops] Hops (history rewinded)

Joachim Fabini <Joachim.Fabini@tuwien.ac.at> Wed, 14 October 2015 09:49 UTC

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All,

working on an update draft for RFC2330 (ippm measurements, approved back
in 1998!) I stumbled over a paragraph that fits into the context of hops
(RFC 2330, page 30, second paragraph):

"A closely related note: it would be very useful to know if a given
   Internet component treats equally a class C of different types of
   packets.  If so, then any one of those types of packets can be used
   for subsequent measurement of the component.  This suggests we devise
   a metric or suite of metrics that attempt to determine C."

Reads like a draft abstract of hops (not exactly, but very close).
Written more than 17 years ago.

See you in Yokohama
Joachim