Re: [hrpc] Session at IETF104

[farzaneh badii <[e-mail]>]

Hi all,

Here is a link to the draft Bradley and I have created:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F25bxpxsslbbXjUAB2YnNEqupROTHrX-/view

The document did not end up being an ID, we are planning to submit it as an
ID in the future but we will base our discussion during HRPC session in
Prague at the above link.

Best
Farzaneh


On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 1:29 PM farzaneh badii <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>
> Bradley Fidler (Asst Professor, Stevens Institute of Technology,
> www.brfidler.com) <https://www.brfidler.com/>and I are submitting an
> Internet-Draft which we would like to present during the HRPC session in
> Prague. We appreciate it if this ID could be considered to be added to the
> agenda. We will both be present for the session. We want to contribute to
> achieving the outputs of this group in general and more specifically come
> up with methods for: Protocol analysis. Data analysis and visualization of
> (existing) protocols in the wild to research their concrete impact on human
> rights.
>
>
> Here is a tentative abstract which we are developing the ID based on. Our
> draft will contribute to methods for protocol analysis.
> Abstract
>
>
> We propose a tentative research agenda for considering political values in
> Internet protocol design. The agenda diverges from other Internet-Drafts on
> the issue of Political Values and human rights consideration in that it
> does not propose to consider human rights values during the process of
> developing protocols. This document argues that while it is not possible to
> ‘encode’ human rights in technical systems such that those values are
> maintained in any social context, there are still productive ways forward
> for organizations interested in considering the consequences of Internet
> protocols on human rights.
>
> Regards,
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:53 AM <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Thanks for pinging on the agenda.
>>
>> I have been thinking about the agenda.  Waiting to see what drafts are
>> submitted.
>>
>> Folks, what drafts, other than hrpc-association, should we expect to
>> come in? Anyone have a relevant paper they wish to discuss? I know of a
>> few other maybes, but not sure what will actually be submitted.
>>
>> On hrpc-association, since there has been a discussion of what is next
>> for it, wondering if we have some members who would like to review it
>> and speak to it and its readiness at the meeting.
>>
>> Among other things on the agenda, I expect we will have a discussion on
>> some recent events, including the situation with IETF id reviews.
>>
>> Are there other topics people think need to be on the agenda?
>>
>> Niels, what topic are you suggesting they speak about? Any papers we can
>> reference on their work?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 20-Feb-19 10:36, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>> > Dear co-chairs,
>> >
>> > Are you planning to have a guest-talk at the hrpc session at IETF104?
>> >
>> > If so, I think it would be very interested to hear of Paul Dourish or
>> > Fenwick McKelvey!
>> >
>> > Happy to help make connections if that's useful.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Niels
>> >
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