[I2nsf] 答复: 答复: 转发: New Version Notification for draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00.txt

["Xialiang (Frank, Network Integration Technology Research Dept)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Diego,
We got your point, which makes sense.
We will consider how to make the security capability to be abstract and general enough, and independent with any particular kind of device. Although it's not so straightforward to achieve, it is indeed the right direction.

Thanks!

B.R.
Frank

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发件人: Diego R. Lopez [mailto:[e-mail]] 
发送时间: 2018年7月16日 21:54
收件人: Xialiang (Frank, Network Integration Technology Research Dept) <[e-mail]>; Dongyue (Yue, Network Integration Technology Research Dept) <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
主题: Re: 答复: [I2nsf] 转发: New Version Notification for draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00.txt

If you associate a capability action (let's say collect-attack-evidence-enable) with a particular kind of device (as part of the antivirus branch) I would not be able to declare or use that particular capability unless the provider has stated the function is an antivirus, and therefore consider all the other capabilities for the antivirus. What is more, this prevents to have a common semantics for something like collect-attack-evidence-enable if you have to declare it under other branches. My understanding is that we have to deal with flat enumeration of capabilities, but I might be completely mistaken from the beginning...

Be goode,

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On 16/07/2018, 08:55, "Xialiang (Frank, Network Integration Technology Research Dept)" <[e-mail]> wrote:

    Hi Diego,
    Thanks for your quick comments. In general, we agree with you that they should be as the various capabilities to be applied.
    But could you please clarify more about what is the difference to be as capability model vs yang grouping model definition?

    Thanks!

    B.R.
    Frank

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    发件人: Diego R. Lopez [mailto:[e-mail]]
    发送时间: 2018年7月16日 20:00
    收件人: Dongyue (Yue, Network Integration Technology Research Dept) <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
    抄送: Xialiang (Frank, Network Integration Technology Research Dept) <[e-mail]>
    主题: Re: [I2nsf] 转发: New Version Notification for draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00.txt

    Hi,

    My general comment to these definitions (and others that may come) is that we should try to deal with them in terms of capabilities, and not in terms of groupings associated to current (virtual or physical) devices. As an example, rather than thinking of "antivirus", I'd propose to think about "content analysis" or "content scanning" capabilities.

    Be goode,

    --
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    Dr Diego R. Lopez
    Telefonica I+D
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    On 16/07/2018, 07:02, "I2nsf on behalf of Dongyue (Yue, Network Integration Technology Research Dept)" <[e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]> wrote:

        Dear all,

        The action part of the NSF-facing data model listed many security function actions, such as antivirus, ips, ids, and etc, that will be applid on traffic flow when the event and condition clauses are satisfied. However, I think it only list the corresponding names. And each type of the secuity function action (i.e. ips, antivirus, etc.) should have many selective profiles that could be executed. Therefore, we proposed a draft, draf-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00, that specifies the configuration detail for each of the security function profile settings. And the NSF-facing data model is able to reference these profiles.

        This -00 version of draft only contains the antivirus, ips, and anti-ddos profiles.

        * Antivirus: The following figure shows the top-level tree diagram for antivirus profile settings. Each profile contains the configuration data for detection methods, detection configurations, signature exceptions, application exceptions, and the white lists configruations.

            +--rw antivirus
               +--rw antivirus-enable
               +--rw profiles
                  +--rw profile *  [name]
                  +--rw name
                  +--rw description
                  +--rw collect-attack-evidence-enable
                  +--rw sandbox-detection-enable
                  +--rw heuristic-detection-enable
                  +--rw detect*  [protocol]
                  |  . . .
                  +--rw exception-application* [application-name]
                  |  . . .
                  +--rw exception-signature*  [signature-id]
                  |  . . .
                  +--rw white-list
                     . . .

        * IPS: The following figure shows the top-level tree diagram for IPS profile settings. Each profile contains the configuration data for signature sets, signature exceptions, and protocol control.

            +--rw ips-config
               +--rw ips-enable
               +--rw profiles
                  +--rw profile*  [name]
                  +  . . .
                  +--rw domain-filter
                  |  . . .
                  +--rw signature-sets
                  |  . . .
                  +--rw exception-signatures
                  |  . . .
                  +--rw protocol-control
                     +--rw dns-check
                     | . . .
                     +--rw http-check
                       . . .

        * Anti-ddos: The anti-ddos part contains the configruation of the alter rate and/or maximum speed/bandwidth to trigger the prevention functions for each type of DDoS attacks.

        For more details, please review the draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00

        We would like to obatain comments from i2nsf WG. Is this draft valuable as an individual draft and will the NSF-facing data model reference these profiles?
        We will appreciate all the comments from I2NSF WG.

        Best Regards,
        Yue

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        发件人: I2nsf [mailto:[e-mail]] 代表 Dongyue (Yue, Network Integration Technology Research Dept)
        发送时间: 2018年6月30日 15:11
        收件人: [e-mail]
        抄送: Xialiang (Frank, Network Integration Technology Research Dept) <[e-mail]>
        主题: [I2nsf] 转发: New Version Notification for draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00.txt

        Dear All,

        We have submitted a new draft about the nsf-facing interface data model for configuration of some advanced security functions including antivirus, antiddos, and ips. We will appreciate all comments.

        Best Regards,
        Yue

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        发件人: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
        发送时间: 2018年6月30日 15:06
        收件人: Dongyue (Yue, Network Integration Technology Research Dept) <[e-mail]>; Xialiang (Frank, Network Integration Technology Research Dept) <[e-mail]>
        主题: New Version Notification for draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00.txt


        A new version of I-D, draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00.txt
        has been successfully submitted by Yue Dong and posted to the IETF repository.

        Name:draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config
        Revision:00
        Title:Configuration of Advanced Security Functions with I2NSF Security Controller
        Document date:2018-06-30
        Group:Individual Submission
        Pages:29
        URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00.txt
        Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config/
        Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config-00
        Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dong-i2nsf-asf-config


        Abstract:
           This draft defines a network security function (NSF-) facing
           interface of the security controller for the purpose of configuring
           some advanced security functions.  These advanced security functions
           include antivirus, anti-ddos, and intrusion prevention system (IPS).
           The interface is presented in a YANG data model fashion and can be
           used to deploy a large amount of NSF blocks that all support above
           mentioned functions in the software defined network (SDN) based
           paradigm.




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