Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we're at/going forward
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Thu, 27 August 2015 17:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we're at/going forward
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--On Thursday, August 27, 2015 16:59 +0200 Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > Skipping down... >... > I would say that where we split hairs, if you can call it > that, is that I view the alternatives as far worse. As I've > said, this is a risk analysis. But on to the meat of the > matter... Letting the elephant in the room out and turning it loose, the bottom line may be that different of us appraise the ICANN situation differently, weigh the factors of the risk analysis differently, make different projections about how the ICANN community might behave under stress, etc. Reasonable people can differ on those points and I'm not convinced that more traffic, especially as long as we continue to be circumspect about the details of our various case analyses and scenarios, will help convince anyone. Perhaps as part of that, but perhaps as an independent issue, I apparently assess the alternatives differently than you do. As as result, I don't think a "far worse" conclusion is justified although I see risks either way. I don't know how relevant it is today, but I note that, in the ICANN formation period, there were several governments whose public position was that US Government involvement (usually spelled "control") was unacceptable but whose private one was closer to "all of the other obvious alternatives are likely to be worse"). Because of those differences and the expectation that we are not likely to persuade each other -- especially when neither of us seems anxious to go into details about our analyses and the information and sources on which they are based -- my preference is that any formal WG comment focus on what the WG actually knows and has discussed rather than our various risk analyses and their interpretations, speculation on scenarios, etc. best, john
- [Ianaplan] Where we're at/going forward Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)
- Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we'r… John Levine
- Re: [Ianaplan] Where we're at/going forward Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we'r… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we'r… John R Levine
- Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we'r… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we'r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we'r… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Our impossible job, was Where we'r… John C Klensin