Re: [Icar] A modest proposal for moving forward with ICAR
Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Mon, 15 November 2004 22:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Icar] A modest proposal for moving forward with ICAR
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > This has the advantage of doing something now with the resources that > we have now ("contents may settle due to shipping"). > > Thoughts and comments? One additional concern on ICAR: if there is no "ICAR manager" (such that I have been calling for), the likely result is either that the folks will try to get the reviews from the minority who are known to produce good (and critical) reviews, or from that class of reviewers, who are known to not be too critical about their business. Either way is bad: the first for loading the best reviewers and not educating the others; the second for not actually delivering a good review and giving an impression that review has been conducted. In any case, approaching people 1-on-1 is likely to result in longer timeouts if the first person(s) don't reply immediately, promise to review but don't deliver, requiring you to start from scratch, etc. So, my thoughts are: 1) motivation for being a reviewer is a bit lacking. There was idea to create yet another 'dot'. Maybe this would be enough. Did this get dropped? This is probably needed at least after an experimental phase. 2) an ICAR 'manager' might help in managing the pool, at least at a later phase. 3) let's try to find a pool of 5-10 people: that should be enough to bootstrap an experiment with about 2 WGs per major areas (I'd hope). That said, because I believe this is an important issue, I'm willing to volunteer though I'm too busy with other IETF activities as it is. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _______________________________________________ Icar mailing list Icar@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar
- [Icar] A modest proposal for moving forward with … Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] A modest proposal for moving forward w… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] A modest proposal for moving forward w… Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Icar] A modest proposal for moving forward w… Pekka Savola
- Re: [Icar] A modest proposal for moving forward w… Spencer Dawkins