Re: [Id-event] Use case document

My strong preference would be an individual I-D that (as Justin says) 
will NOT be pushed to RFC. Why an I-D at all? Because this is what IETF 
folks are used to, and it is referenced from the WG agenda and minutes.

Thanks,

     Yaron

On 04/05/17 07:57, Justin Richer wrote:
> In fact, I’m going to ask that we *not* push a use cases document 
> toward RFC. Use case documents are wonderful tools for guiding 
> development, but should be discarded as artifacts of that process once 
> said process is completed (or even well on its way).
>
> As such, RFC, wiki, blog post, or anything referenced from the list 
> and easily findable works.
>
>  — Justin
>
>> On May 3, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> As the more experienced chair, I will defer to Yaron for guidance.
>>
>> So far no one has expected it to be adopted as an RFC
>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Phil Hunt<phil.hunt@oracle.com 
>> <mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>>wrote:
>>
>>     Depends on what the WG wants.
>>
>>     Email cases,
>>     Github posted document,
>>     Individual IDs posted to the working group, or
>>     an ID that gets adopted as a WG draft to end up as RFC (e.g. JOSE
>>     has RFC7165, and SCIM itself had RFC7642, Oauth had a WG
>>     drafthttps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-use-cases-03
>>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-use-cases-03>).
>>
>>     Let us know what form and what format.
>>
>>     We can also use one for OpenID Backchannel Logout.  This is
>>     particularly important because it will be triggered by (or is
>>     related to) SCIM and by RISC events such as account resets,
>>     authentication factor changes etc.
>>
>>     Phil
>>
>>     Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services Architect & Standards
>>     @independentid
>>     www.independentid.com <http://www.independentid.com/>
>>     phil.hunt@oracle.com <mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>
>>
>>>     On May 3, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Phil
>>>
>>>     per
>>>
>>>     https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/id-event/FGuz9IsUMKqKeq2OjEBjCZ9cBcI
>>>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailarchive.ietf.org_arch_msg_id-2Devent_FGuz9IsUMKqKeq2OjEBjCZ9cBcI&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0FkITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m=bAI2H661a1QkItfplrd3RIM36dgAhF4WdbWxW8BOy4Q&s=ebhqgdwBfmclFpVn-cScD6uoiYqkmZVlRpC3XXk91Es&e=>
>>>
>>>     you offered to put them in a WG doc (see quate below). Would
>>>     that not be an ID. Also, as I read over the document, it is hard
>>>     to follow what the use cases are as it is very verbose.
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com> <mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com&gt>; wrote:
>>>
>>>     > All,
>>>     >
>>>     > Dick asked me if I would enumerate the SCIM use cases.  Here is the SCIM
>>>     > case. Happy to put these somewhere in a working group document.
>>>
>>>     On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Phil Hunt<phil.hunt@oracle.com
>>>     <mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>>wrote:
>>>
>>>         My understanding was you wanted informal cases not IDs. The
>>>         SCIM cases have been posted to the mailing list. I believe
>>>         Marius is close on the RISC cases.
>>>
>>>         Phil
>>>
>>>         Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services Architect &
>>>         Standards
>>>         @independentid
>>>         www.independentid.com
>>>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.independentid.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0FkITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m=bAI2H661a1QkItfplrd3RIM36dgAhF4WdbWxW8BOy4Q&s=nBNO3_d_Mw4enpU54VxuTcoqCJSXkSSzg8LnXIkI5bg&e=>
>>>         phil.hunt@oracle.com <mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>
>>>
>>>>         On May 3, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Dick Hardt
>>>>         <dick.hardt@gmail.com <mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Phil / Marius
>>>>
>>>>         At the Chicago meeting, the two of you agreed to work on a
>>>>         document containing use cases you considered to be relevant
>>>>         for secevent so that the WG could decide which ones were in
>>>>         scope and which ones were out of scope.
>>>>
>>>>         Checking in on the status of the use case document. Would
>>>>         you provide an update when you have a chance?
>>>>
>>>>         /Dick
>>>>
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