Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form
Sascha Brawer <sascha@brawer.ch> Wed, 06 March 2019 20:03 UTC
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To: Leon Derczynski <leod@itu.dk>
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form
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How about "Subtag: bornholm"? The proposed "bor" has only 3 letters, which is too short for a variant subtag; "bornholm" has 8 letters which is within the allowed range. -- Sascha Leon Derczynski <leod@itu.dk> schrieb am Mi., 6. März 2019, 20:53: > Hi, > > Thank you for your careful feedback. An amended registration form follows. > The subtag is now the set of characters common to both the English, Danish, > and Bornholmsk word for the language. > > > LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM > 1. Name of requester: Leon Strømberg-Derczynski > 2. E-mail address of requester: ld@itu.dk > 3. Record Requested: > > Type: variant > Subtag: bor > Description: Bornholmsk > Prefix: da > Preferred-Value: > Deprecated: > Suppress-Script: > Macrolanguage: > Comments: > > 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: > The Bornholmsk language, spoken on the Danish island of Bornholm, > which has distinct grammar, lexicon, gender system and pronunciation > when compared to Danish. Also known as Borrinjholmsk, Eastern Danish, > and Allinge-svensk (inheriting from both Danish and Scanian Swedish). > > 5. Reference to published description > of the language (book or article): > There is an established literature on the language; the Wikipedia > page provides a good jumping-off point - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornholmsk_dialect > See also Aarhus University's description of the spoken language - > > http://jysk.au.dk/samlinger/baandsamling/dialektproever/dialekttraekfrabornholm/ > > Present on Glottolog: > https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/born1251 > > 6. Any other relevant information: > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 19:42, Phillips, Addison <addison@lab126.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> The requested subtag ‘bornholmsk’ is more than eight letters/digits long, >> and thus invalid. You should consider how to abbreviate it appropriately or >> choose an appropriate alternate representation that “fits”. Also, the >> Suppress-Script and Macrolanguage fields must not appear in a variant >> record (the ‘da’ subtag probably has the script field already; >> macrolanguage is not applicable to Danish). >> >> >> >> Addison >> >> >> >> *From:* Ietf-languages [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@ietf.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Leon Derczynski >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 06, 2019 1:13 AM >> *To:* ietf-languages@iana.org >> *Subject:* [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form >> >> >> >> For variant: bornholmsk >> >> >> >> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM >> >> 1. Name of requester: Leon Strømberg-Derczynski >> >> 2. E-mail address of requester: ld@itu.dk >> >> 3. Record Requested: >> >> >> >> Type: variant >> >> Subtag: bornholmsk >> >> Description: Bornholmsk >> >> Prefix: da >> >> Preferred-Value: >> >> Deprecated: >> >> Suppress-Script: Latn >> >> Macrolanguage: da >> >> Comments: >> >> >> >> 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: >> >> The Bornholmsk language, spoken on the Danish island of Bornholm, >> >> which has distinct grammar, lexicon, gender system and pronunciation >> >> when compared to Danish. Also known as Borrinjholmsk, Eastern Danish, >> >> and Allinge-svensk (inheriting from both Danish and Scanian Swedish). >> >> >> >> 5. Reference to published description >> >> of the language (book or article): >> >> There is an established literature on the language; the Wikipedia >> >> page provides a good jumping-off point - >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornholmsk_dialect >> >> See also Aarhus University's description of the spoken language - >> >> >> http://jysk.au.dk/samlinger/baandsamling/dialektproever/dialekttraekfrabornholm/ >> >> >> Present on Glottolog: >> >> https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/born1251 >> >> >> >> 6. Any other relevant information: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Natural Language Processing, Department of Computer Science >> >> IT University of Copenhagen http://www.derczynski.com/itu/ +45 5157 >> 4948 >> > > > -- > Natural Language Processing, Department of Computer Science > IT University of Copenhagen http://www.derczynski.com/itu/ +45 5157 4948 > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-languages mailing list > Ietf-languages@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages >
- [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form Leon Derczynski
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Leon Derczynski
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Sascha Brawer
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Richard Wordingham
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Leon Derczynski
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration… Leon Derczynski