Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form

Sascha Brawer <sascha@brawer.ch> Wed, 06 March 2019 20:03 UTC

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Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 21:02:58 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form
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How about "Subtag: bornholm"? The proposed "bor" has only 3 letters, which
is too short for a variant subtag; "bornholm" has 8 letters which is within
the allowed range.

-- Sascha


Leon Derczynski <leod@itu.dk> schrieb am Mi., 6. März 2019, 20:53:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for your careful feedback. An amended registration form follows.
> The subtag is now the set of characters common to both the English, Danish,
> and Bornholmsk word for the language.
>
>
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
>    1. Name of requester: Leon Strømberg-Derczynski
>    2. E-mail address of requester: ld@itu.dk
>    3. Record Requested:
>
>       Type: variant
>       Subtag: bor
>       Description: Bornholmsk
>       Prefix: da
>       Preferred-Value:
>       Deprecated:
>       Suppress-Script:
>       Macrolanguage:
>       Comments:
>
>    4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
>      The Bornholmsk language, spoken on the Danish island of Bornholm,
>      which has distinct grammar, lexicon, gender system and pronunciation
>      when compared to Danish. Also known as Borrinjholmsk, Eastern Danish,
>      and Allinge-svensk (inheriting from both Danish and Scanian Swedish).
>
>    5. Reference to published description
>       of the language (book or article):
>       There is an established literature on the language; the Wikipedia
>       page provides a good jumping-off point -
>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornholmsk_dialect
>       See also Aarhus University's description of the spoken language -
>
> http://jysk.au.dk/samlinger/baandsamling/dialektproever/dialekttraekfrabornholm/
>
>       Present on Glottolog:
>         https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/born1251
>
>    6. Any other relevant information:
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 19:42, Phillips, Addison <addison@lab126.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> The requested subtag ‘bornholmsk’ is more than eight letters/digits long,
>> and thus invalid. You should consider how to abbreviate it appropriately or
>> choose an appropriate alternate representation that “fits”. Also, the
>> Suppress-Script and Macrolanguage fields must not appear in a variant
>> record (the ‘da’ subtag probably has the script field already;
>> macrolanguage is not applicable to Danish).
>>
>>
>>
>> Addison
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ietf-languages [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@ietf.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Leon Derczynski
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 06, 2019 1:13 AM
>> *To:* ietf-languages@iana.org
>> *Subject:* [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form
>>
>>
>>
>> For variant: bornholmsk
>>
>>
>>
>> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
>>
>>    1. Name of requester: Leon Strømberg-Derczynski
>>
>>    2. E-mail address of requester: ld@itu.dk
>>
>>    3. Record Requested:
>>
>>
>>
>>       Type: variant
>>
>>       Subtag: bornholmsk
>>
>>       Description: Bornholmsk
>>
>>       Prefix: da
>>
>>       Preferred-Value:
>>
>>       Deprecated:
>>
>>       Suppress-Script: Latn
>>
>>       Macrolanguage: da
>>
>>       Comments:
>>
>>
>>
>>    4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
>>
>>      The Bornholmsk language, spoken on the Danish island of Bornholm,
>>
>>      which has distinct grammar, lexicon, gender system and pronunciation
>>
>>      when compared to Danish. Also known as Borrinjholmsk, Eastern Danish,
>>
>>      and Allinge-svensk (inheriting from both Danish and Scanian Swedish).
>>
>>
>>
>>    5. Reference to published description
>>
>>       of the language (book or article):
>>
>>       There is an established literature on the language; the Wikipedia
>>
>>       page provides a good jumping-off point -
>>
>>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornholmsk_dialect
>>
>>       See also Aarhus University's description of the spoken language -
>>
>>
>> http://jysk.au.dk/samlinger/baandsamling/dialektproever/dialekttraekfrabornholm/
>>
>>
>>       Present on Glottolog:
>>
>>         https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/born1251
>>
>>
>>
>>    6. Any other relevant information:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Natural Language Processing, Department of Computer Science
>>
>> IT University of Copenhagen  http://www.derczynski.com/itu/  +45 5157
>> 4948
>>
>
>
> --
> Natural Language Processing, Department of Computer Science
> IT University of Copenhagen  http://www.derczynski.com/itu/  +45 5157 4948
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