Re: "An open letter" signed by some IAB members

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 20 November 2019 03:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: "An open letter" signed by some IAB members
From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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The house is burning down and we are arguing over titles of firefighters.

Eliot