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Re: "An open letter" signed by some IAB members

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Wed, 20 November 2019 08:38 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:37:55 -0800
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Subject: Re: "An open letter" signed by some IAB members
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:42 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
wrote:

> - I’m NOT talking about the content of the message and whether I do or
> don’t agree with it.  That’s not the point.  I hope that as we discuss
> this we do NOT go into the content, the politics, and so on.  Let’s
> please keep this highly charged issue out of IETF discussions.
>

Well, sometimes, affiliations can be misleading if included. And,
sometimes, omitting them can be misleading as well.

thanks,
Rob

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