Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01.txt
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Fri, 23 June 2017 17:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01.txt
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: Petr Špaček <petr.spacek@nic.cz>, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>
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Hi, John, On 6/22/2017 10:04 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > Joe, > > I think we are in agreement -- we have been so far-- We are. > but let me > add a real world example that might help clarify some of this. Your example makes a good point - my interpretation of that is "don't rely on half of the Postel Principle". > ... there is a long history of reasonable > applications of the principle and an equally long on of > unreasonable applications including situations in which senders > have claimed "be liberal about what you accept" allows them to > send complete nonsense and, if things then don't work, to claim > that is the receiver's fault (see my earlier comments about > common sense). They need to "be conservative in what you send". The principle cuts both ways. Joe
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… heasley
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… John C Klensin
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… heasley
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Christian Huitema
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Dave Cridland
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Petr Špaček
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… heasley
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Paul Wouters
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… heasley
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Mark Andrews
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… John C Klensin
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Bob Hinden
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Christian Huitema
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Mark Andrews
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Julian Reschke
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Petr Špaček
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Paul Wouters
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… John Wroclawski
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Randy Bush
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Jaap Akkerhuis
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Petr Špaček
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Yoav Nir
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Carsten Bormann
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Eric Rescorla
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Paul Wouters
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Eric Rescorla
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Yoav Nir
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… John C Klensin
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Petr Špaček
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Yoav Nir
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… heasley
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… John C Klensin
- RE: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- RE: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Joe Touch
- RE: I-D Action: draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-01… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)