Re: [saag] What does DNSSec protect? (Re: Last Call: <draft-dukhovni-opportunistic-security-01.txt> (Opportunistic Security: some protection most of the time) to Informational RFC)

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Sun, 10 August 2014 22:37 UTC

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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:37:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: [saag] What does DNSSec protect? (Re: Last Call: <draft-dukhovni-opportunistic-security-01.txt> (Opportunistic Security: some protection most of the time) to Informational RFC)
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On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 03:37:10PM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
> statements we make about it when we are being careful.   It is
> about people engaging in hyperbole of the nature of "you have
> DNSSEC, now you are safe" (with the implication of "from all
> sorts of attacks") or using other language that implies that the
> threats that you (and John L.) have identified.  

Yes, I'm sorry.  I was over-reacting to something John L. said,
because I've recently been subject to a long harangue about how DNSSEC
doesn't protect anything at all.  My apologies to all.

Best regards,

A

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Andrew Sullivan
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