Re: [IPsec] #116: The AUTH payload signature

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Wed, 25 November 2009 16:22 UTC

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:21:46 -0800
To: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf@checkpoint.com>
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] #116: The AUTH payload signature
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At 1:44 PM +0200 11/25/09, Tero Kivinen wrote:
>Yaron Sheffer writes:
>> Tero requested a clarification: I'm proposing to say that the
>> certificate's hash algorithm does not determine the AUTH hash
>> function (which is the negotiated PRF). Implementations may use the
>> certificates received from a given peer as a hint for selecting a
>> mutually-understood PRF with that peer.
>
>That I can accept. They are not unrelated, but certificate's hash
>algorithm does not determine AUTH hash algorithm.

+1

> > And yes, the last sentence refers to this text:
>>
>> To promote interoperability, implementations that support this type
>> SHOULD support signatures that use SHA-1 as the hash function and
>> SHOULD use SHA-1 as the default hash function when generating
>> signatures.
>
>Do you have new proposed text?

+1. :-)

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