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Re: [Jmap] message copying and moving

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 11 August 2017 12:37 UTC

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 08:37:43 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Jmap] message copying and moving
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Right. My point was simply that the case where the end user wants two
distinct copies of a message which can have independent state is more
unusual than the case where the end user wants a single message to appear
in two places, which at present is also somewhat unusual. There are a lot
of potential applications for the latter. I can't think of any important
applications for the former.

On Aug 11, 2017 1:31 AM, "Neil Jenkins" <neilj@fastmailteam.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Aug 2017, at 03:27 PM, J.B. Nicholson wrote:
>
> I also think moving and copying are far more straightforward and familiar
> actions to non-technical users.
>
>
> I think you're misunderstanding; the MUA can still present move/copy
> options. Moving is removing one mailbox while adding another to the
> mailboxIds property of the message. Copying is adding without removing (so
> you have multiple mailboxes in the mailboxIds list). Because the copies are
> presented with a single id in the API, the MUA can also expose this as
> "labels", but it doesn't have to.
>
> Regards,
> Neil.
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