[Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME and other credentials for E2E secure communications
mailtemi support <zhivko_vasilev@mailtemi.com> Mon, 10 February 2025 18:17 UTC
Return-Path: <zhivko_vasilev@mailtemi.com>
X-Original-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07C6C1388BA for <jmap@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:17:37 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.804
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.804 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mailtemi.com header.b="LNQAsEdC"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b="ZTS/uGi4"
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YkVwnD9_ESnC for <jmap@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:17:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from fout-a8-smtp.messagingengine.com (fout-a8-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.151]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37945C180B56 for <jmap@ietf.org>; Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:17:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from phl-compute-05.internal (phl-compute-05.phl.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfout.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECC713809AC; Mon, 10 Feb 2025 13:17:32 -0500 (EST)
Received: from phl-imap-07 ([10.202.2.97]) by phl-compute-05.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 10 Feb 2025 13:17:32 -0500
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailtemi.com; h= cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1739211452; x=1739297852; bh=y102939mit w6BR9JrOQ1llZBvAtWoCA+7ve3ECQQKAA=; b=LNQAsEdC0FOl3lK1KHEkuxQ6u3 veOaEiDKYKeIkD5SA2Z6P2iLbDZ+9s19i8Xycw1OkV8da363s5PC9tCQ/N953xPk fvhwXvNMWH51DaKcH6xinqFG6ZY22c9OhB06Rw2AWevrHvcIoPbgU15vaR/Dsp0s W5N9HPQsFE0wUVkA6NGEI1kgv+PSJ8wwc8aGyvBAC7o7ADw2HHLwCbO8HSVlpH5K kPVl/xCtkTef9MGwhQ36i/nvClPafSv1f/ti7VWtn5Q7reo/Yw7o+zF5zNkZUDKh d+DZENHaLatJJeLlEWu5+6BVf/Z+ZvQ/plgGw+ujL3Nqnmp24JlYtyU+tFgA==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t= 1739211452; x=1739297852; bh=y102939mitw6BR9JrOQ1llZBvAtWoCA+7ve 3ECQQKAA=; b=ZTS/uGi4HMZZd6rZ8zZJASd4sgW42CJCRk8QfWVo8mxA+2ndiiE +ckVOpuQNKpGI1UzwxEHHD7TG4eb7JNXFgvKJVJ7kF2LV16wQl5bX6O6HVOl7Tjq UNkD7tKYGYVjfLdfTMq2hm4ousyPNH7Erg8YJzr/H1qc69hyMhfs07Vvody6TogZ aTBvpbXT0jPnLnb/iLFdnc7TaT+qKWQ1WKhBv3zn7J1uJPOxT7R3+rCoTICrJXQ1 nke6AnY8z00mwBPdRs3mi5+Tgebvk/xUOYZQNjxOwWHdn6bG6J6+EXKA7SyKj/bd DFz5N8rayoZDNrzV0Tyx9H5AYF9ssi2Rh2Q==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:u0KqZ4yq3G97Ulj5KmldC6AnY3O0NARvFNFZ_DDC7oTnwAKSxwB4Xg> <xme:u0KqZ8SBNMvCqsJC0YVPQxD93gs1NR9h7JcNTFPEgi-xZHy9IKYWsXyaEB3xEA2t5 gFik23dyyfheBqgFw>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdefkeejjecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdp uffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivg hnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefoggffhffvvefkjghfufgtsegrtderreertdej necuhfhrohhmpedfmhgrihhlthgvmhhiuchsuhhpphhorhhtfdcuoeiihhhivhhkohgpvh grshhilhgvvhesmhgrihhlthgvmhhirdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeuvddt tdfhudffuefgkeegledvteegleetudfhudeiffeuudejhedugeejgeevleenucevlhhush htvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeiihhhivhhkohgpvhgr shhilhgvvhesmhgrihhlthgvmhhirdgtohhmpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopeefpdhmohguvg epshhmthhpohhuthdprhgtphhtthhopehfvghnthhonhessghluhgvphhophgtohhrnhdr nhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopehphhhilhhlsehhrghllhgrmhgsrghkvghrrdgtohhmpdhrtg hpthhtohepjhhmrghpsehivghtfhdrohhrgh
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:u0KqZ6WwAUIrBBzztsvwCKxHbzPSXSt7dxWWVcY541FKyYhV--LcsQ> <xmx:u0KqZ2jga9Js2NXfw5Uk5-I7mPg1xmr-Qx4ONluSBxm3Ooo3QmpVgg> <xmx:u0KqZ6DAr898KkiZ5JCuLNvVISztZTAMEwTUqAwEtfwZrK7SL1vrzg> <xmx:u0KqZ3JgSynrDZS2Oo3qVh9URsC-bPYrR58LmCyIRlEzbcNRfpR96A> <xmx:vEKqZ9NBNuKcIuEnxtkDjIP48gCn1Wsqz_y6-xQ5VTz7biyZ-yr2EQmT>
Feedback-ID: i0b014954:Fastmail
Received: by mailuser.phl.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2E47CBA0070; Mon, 10 Feb 2025 13:17:31 -0500 (EST)
X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface
MIME-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:17:10 +0200
From: mailtemi support <zhivko_vasilev@mailtemi.com>
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>, Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net>
Message-Id: <0d453b3b-e69f-406f-88a4-73d01ef9ad07@app.fastmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAMm+LwiNvBOjh4u31mLt4a=rM5jCtaubmO5avMX-DJV0Ykt3AA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMm+LwgS53rvNH8YiG=pYn85NEtG-ZhYPQ912_CxQ94-AUGtOQ@mail.gmail.com> <1CD52010-3C46-400B-9586-17CAC5BE51E4@bluepopcorn.net> <CAMm+LwjVDGm4_X-M0w6hw2LfE+66G2V67F=k5O+6y4ubj_nd6A@mail.gmail.com> <37EDB886-1C52-4A89-B722-0590C525E202@bluepopcorn.net> <CAMm+LwiNvBOjh4u31mLt4a=rM5jCtaubmO5avMX-DJV0Ykt3AA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="14bdde5a0da54868b6816405cc16c334"
Message-ID-Hash: PZYPZH35XVIGEYZPTDK6O2JEPZGK2ZEX
X-Message-ID-Hash: PZYPZH35XVIGEYZPTDK6O2JEPZGK2ZEX
X-MailFrom: zhivko_vasilev@mailtemi.com
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-jmap.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
CC: JMAP Mail List <jmap@ietf.org>
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6
Precedence: list
Subject: [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME and other credentials for E2E secure communications
List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol <jmap.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/jmap/ObwfkMTll_snLyA7m3CkLErG9Cs>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/jmap>
List-Help: <mailto:jmap-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:jmap-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:jmap@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:jmap-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:jmap-leave@ietf.org>
Hey Phillip, >From your question, it seems like you're considering using the JMAP Contacts notation for a completely different use case? I'm not part of the IETF, but I’m subscribed to the mailing list because I'm working on a JMAP email client. I’m eagerly awaiting the finalization of JMAP Contacts and, I must admit, I often get lost in all the texts It would be helpful to know which (JSContact) RFC you're referring to—rfc9553 or rfc9610? - Zhivko On Mon, Feb 10, 2025, at 7:20 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 11:58 AM Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net> wrote: >> __ >> Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see any changes to JSContact that would be required there. Of course you can use JSContact without the concurrence of the WG. >> >> -Jim >> > 1) People keep telling me that the IETF is a place where we meet and exchange ideas and that is the reason we have 2 hour meeting slots so there is cross-fertilization. > > It would be pretty bad for me to take the work you have been doing and then roll out a service applying it in a completely different fashion without mentioning it first. IETF is all about permissionless innovation, but I always let people know what I am doing. > > 2) I am not sure that the contact format as currently specified is optimal for my purpose. I am very likely to want to extend, particularly for putting resources like code signing keys in. > > 3) There is more than one way to apply this technology to my problem and the group has a lot more experience than I do. > > _______________________________________________ > Jmap mailing list -- jmap@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to jmap-leave@ietf.org > Best Regards, Mailtemi Support
- [Jmap] DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME and … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Jim Fenton
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Jim Fenton
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … mailtemi support
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Arnt Gulbrandsen
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Robert Stepanek
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Robert Stepanek
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Jmap] Re: DNS Handles to publish OpenPGP, SMIME … Robert Stepanek
- [Jmap] Update notification mechanism Was: DNS Han… Phillip Hallam-Baker