IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-jsonbis-rfc7159bis-03 [rfc7159bis scope]

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Thu, 16 March 2017 21:19 UTC

Return-Path: <nico@cryptonector.com>
X-Original-To: json@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: json@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B7C129A9E; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.796
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.796] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cryptonector.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0mEQApIJigyt; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from homiemail-a104.g.dreamhost.com (sub4.mail.dreamhost.com [69.163.253.135]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E570B129A99; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from homiemail-a104.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a104.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE1530005C2E; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cryptonector.com; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=cryptonector.com; bh=1XczZKhc6ahnp1 9sC1jvoo1EncM=; b=lFEiDvLD8zt6fvJ954WpPnV+t1WFDOM02iUVxhbiXoRNpX 5qU9DIjs2C2Z824BZd0BHshD3lB2ZRjc/juLwW+m4oskQ2dHORY9ZKCXN2HZKpRC sKotPeabY0ojOT0kLf3Jp0G6KaKeXg4OLpBW53kBtLNyp6xhr2jHaLliTMjhc=
Received: from localhost (cpe-70-123-158-140.austin.res.rr.com [70.123.158.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nico@cryptonector.com) by homiemail-a104.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0576330005C2C; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:19:31 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:19:28 -0500
From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Cc: "Matthew A. Miller" <linuxwolf+ietf@outer-planes.net>, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>, draft-ietf-jsonbis-rfc7159bis.all@ietf.org, "json@ietf.org" <json@ietf.org>, Peter Cordell <petejson@codalogic.com>, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <20170316211927.GB7490@localhost>
References: <24d37dc6-eee2-5e0c-6d33-d3450750e886@codalogic.com> <d520cf1f-bafd-6f62-c46c-482ad3a01f20@gmx.de> <EAF23716-FC94-478C-ACCF-9ED58B8A0ADF@fastmail.fm> <2b6f5439-18d1-9b7b-97e9-c683187ce452@codalogic.com> <7aaceb7a-45e9-b330-beee-fb66f933b3c9@outer-planes.net> <CAD2gp_Q0tg8MBC31x3v7CqkHwxikr=UyU6rL02u8ksh4LaSk+Q@mail.gmail.com> <942f4af5-ddb9-ed39-0013-6b75c3a8078c@outer-planes.net> <e0d0fe23-1e24-3d2c-f12d-9389b82e0f2d@gmx.de> <f331771c-35eb-39a7-00ec-9277dc0d87a3@outer-planes.net> <32094243-0a95-54a5-1739-a733b5215a68@gmx.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <32094243-0a95-54a5-1739-a733b5215a68@gmx.de>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/json/p7Mi9CQ1r9vqhUKRMbJcaEYnz7c>
Subject: Re: [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-jsonbis-rfc7159bis-03 [rfc7159bis scope]
X-BeenThere: json@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "JavaScript Object Notation \(JSON\) WG mailing list" <json.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/json>, <mailto:json-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/json/>
List-Post: <mailto:json@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:json-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/json>, <mailto:json-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:19:34 -0000

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:08:06PM +0100, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2017-03-16 21:50, Matthew A. Miller wrote:
> >...
> >[ /me continues with no hat ]
> >
> >Then we're still at an impasse as far as multiple encodings go.  As I
> >personally see it, the only choices are:
> >
> >1. Section 8.1 stays exactly as it is; or
> >2. Make the (normative) change to restrict the encoding to UTF-8 only.
> >...
> 
> I disagree that these are the only choices.
> 
> My proposal is to leave the normative bits exactly as they were before, and
> just to explain detection better.

+1

We might not get consensus on this, in which case Matt's (1) is best.

v2.1.2.p1 | Report a Bug | By Email