Re: [karp] Time to wind up KARP

"Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" <manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com> Fri, 23 May 2014 05:56 UTC

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From: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" <manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com>
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Thread-Topic: [karp] Time to wind up KARP
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Subject: Re: [karp] Time to wind up KARP
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Hi Adrian,

Its done.

The new version is here:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-karp-bfd-analysis-02.txt

Cheers, Manav

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:52 PM
> To: Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
> Cc: karp@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [karp] Time to wind up KARP
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can you start the process by refreshing the I-D?
> 
> Thanks,
> Adrian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bhatia, Manav (Manav) [mailto:manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com]
> > Sent: 21 May 2014 08:30
> > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; karp@ietf.org
> > Cc: sec-ads@tools.ietf.org; rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [karp] Time to wind up KARP
> >
> > Hi Adrian,
> >
> > draft-ietf-karp-bfd-analysis has finished the WG LC (this I think has
> been
> > discussed in the BFD WG as well) and we're waiting for Brian to
> prepare a
> > writeup. We can push it to the IESG as soon as the writeup is done.
> >
> > Cheers, Manav
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karp [mailto:karp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
> Farrel
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:56 PM
> > > To: karp@ietf.org
> > > Cc: sec-ads@tools.ietf.org; rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org
> > > Subject: [karp] Time to wind up KARP
> > >
> > > Hi KARP working group,
> > >
> > > With RFC 7210 now published and draft-ietf-karp-ops-model having
> > > completed
> > > Auth48, the WG can justifiably claim to have delivered on
> significant
> > > parts of
> > > the charter.
> > >
> > > The "next big thing" for the working group has been constant for a
> long
> > > time:
> > > AKM. However, as you know, there has been no movement on this
> despite a
> > > couple
> > > of I-Ds on the topic. In London there was a suggestion that there
> might
> > > be a
> > > "management plane" solution to AKM spanning multiple routing
> protocols,
> > > but when
> > > squeezed, there were not many people offering to do work on this,
> and
> > > no I-Ds or
> > > even emails have popped out in the 8 weeks since then.
> > >
> > > The WG also has just two more drafts in hand.
> > >  - draft-ietf-karp-isis-analysis is pretty close to cooked
> > >  - draft-ietf-karp-bfd-analysis has expired, but is also close to
> > > cooked.
> > >
> > > Of course, there are a number of active individual drafts in the
> pipe
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > After discussion with the chairs and with Alia, and unless
> persuaded
> > > otherwise,
> > > I will close the KARP working group on 29th May.
> > >
> > > We would handle remaining work as follows:
> > >
> > > - There will not be a meeting in Toronto.
> > > - The KARP mailing list will remain open as a place to contact
> people
> > > about
> > > KARP-related work.
> > > - The two remaining WG drafts will be completed as "AD Sponsored"
> with
> > > cross-checks to the ISIS and BFD working groups.
> > > - Any new protocol analysis I-Ds will be taken to the appropriate
> > > protocol-owning working groups.
> > >      - The work mapping TCP-AO state to key tables can move to IDR
> > >      - A home for management of KeyTables can also be found (e.g.,
> > > NETMod)
> > > - If a group of people want to work on a management solution for
> AKM
> > > for routing
> > > protocols (or for any protocol) then the OPS, SEC, and RTG ADs will
> > > find a place
> > > for the work. (Write a draft, get some support, and talk to us.)
> > > - If a charterable body of work comes along (such as AKM within
> routing
> > > protocols) then we will charter or home the work as necessary.
> > >
> > > Please think about this and comment to the list.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Adrian
> > >
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