Re: [kitten] shepherd review of draft-ietf-kitten-krb-auth-indicator-02

Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu> Mon, 26 September 2016 16:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [kitten] shepherd review of draft-ietf-kitten-krb-auth-indicator-02
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On 09/25/2016 07:20 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> It feels like some parts of the document are written as if the "short
> strings" for comparison against known values are only for use when
> presented back to the KDC, but other parts of the document describe it as
> being used for policy decisions made by application services as well as
> the KDC.

Application servers can use auth indicators.  What parts of the document
imply that they are only used by the KDC?

> So, I think that section 3 should be more stringent, saying something like
> "strings that contain a colon character MUST be URIs that reference a
> Level of Assurance Profile, leaving other strings available for
> site-local use".

The existing text in section 3 is pretty clear to me, but if we need to
make it more clear, I suggest replacing:

    These
    strings MAY be site-defined strings that do not contain a colon such
    as the name of the Pre-Authentication mechanism used, or
    alternatively URIs that reference a Level of Assurance Profile
    [RFC6711].

with:

    Each string MUST be either:

    * A URI which references a Level of Assurance Profile [RFC6711].

    * A site-defined string, which MUST NOT contain a colon, whose
      meaning is determined by the realm administrator.

> I also suspect that the last paragraph of the security considerations
> should be rewritten in a normative fashion and moved to section 3, to make
> it clear what the presence of a given string in the authdata indicates.
> (Do we know of reasons why someone might use this AD element to indicate
> something other than a positive indication that the indicated requirements
> were met during the initial authentication?)

That seems like a reasonable change to me.

> There's also some matter of form regarding the string
> "AD-AUTHENTICATION-INDICATOR", which should probably just be used for the
> definition of the ASN.1 type; the value 97 is the ad-type for which the
> contents of-the ad-data field will be the DER encoding of the
> AD-AUTHENTICATION-INDICATOR object.  So, I would just say "The KDC MAY
> include authorization data of ad-type 97, wrapped in AD-CAMMAC, [...]" and
> skip the line that's just
> 
> AD-AUTHENTICATION-INDICATOR 97
> 
> (and replace the colon with a full stop).

That change also seems okay to me.