Re: [ledbat] Commitment to contribute by P2P-next project

Stanislav Shalunov <shalunov@bittorrent.com> Fri, 07 August 2009 21:39 UTC

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From: Stanislav Shalunov <shalunov@bittorrent.com>
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Subject: Re: [ledbat] Commitment to contribute by P2P-next project
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Johan,

Sharing information explicitly among multiple connections from the
same client is a promising area.  (If I understood correctly the
direction of what you're doing.)

It'd be great to know more about the technique in question, and its
applicability to various forms of congestion control.  Is it a
specific congestion control mechanism or a way to modify other
congestion control mechanisms to take advantage of the knowledge that
the upload is 1:n?

Thanks,

-- Stas

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Johan Pouwelse<peer2peer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear ledbat group,
>
> Hereby the P2P-Next research group commits itself to contributing to Ledbat
> a 'next-generation congestion control algorithm'.
>
> We have developed new algorithms and initial running Open Source code which
> we are expanding. Before the end of this year we are planning to conduct an
> open Internet trial with over 50.000 participants.
> P2P-Next is a European Union sponsored project with a budget of 19 million
> Euro. We are commited to use part of these resources to deploy and
> standardize a novel congestion control algorithm.
> We have reviewed in detail the current proposals on the Stockholm agenda.
> Our key contribution due before end of 2009 is an algorithm which is
> designed to move beyond the 1-to-1 context of current state-of-the-art. We
> improve efficiency by utilising the fact that large majority of background
> upload traffic takes place in a 1 uploader to N receivers context. Our
> initial measurements indicate that local and remote congestion can be
> identified with superior accuracy if this context is exploited.
>
> From the strategic side we plan to be completely open about sharing of our
> Open Source code, algorithms and (anonymised) datasets.
>
> By contacting you prior to this meeting we hope that you can take our work
> into account when relevant.
> The technical detail of our work will be given within a month from now.
>
> Greetings,
> Dr. Johan pouwelse, scientific director of P2P-next.
>
> On Jul 27, 2009 5:48 AM, "Bernard Aboba" <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> LEDBAT WG Meeting
> IETF 75
> Stockholm, Sweden
>
> Chairs:  S. Shalunov
>          M. Sridharan
>          B. Aboba (acting)
>
> Wednesday, July 29, 2009
> 13:00 - 15:00
> Congresshall B
>
> Preliminaries (10 minutes)
>
> Note well
> Blue Sheets
> Minute Takers
> Jabber Scribe
> Agenda bashing
> Document Status
>
> Documents Under Consideration for Adoption as a WG Work Item (80 minutes)
>
> 13:10 - 13:40  Low Extra Delay Background  Transport (LEDBAT), S. Shalunov
> (30 minutes)
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-shalunov-ledbat-congestion
>
> 13:40 – 14:10 LEDBAT Practices and Recommendations, R. Penno (30 minutes)
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-recommendations
>
> 14:10 – 14:30 A Survey of Lower-than-Best Effort Transport Protocols, M.
> Welzl (20 minutes)
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-welzl-ledbat-survey
>
> Next Steps and Wrapup (30 minutes)
>
> 14:30 – 15:00 Chairs & Area Directors (30 minutes)
>
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