Re: [Manycouches] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-shmoo-remote-fee-08: (with COMMENT)

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Thu, 24 August 2023 09:23 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
CC: "draft-ietf-shmoo-remote-fee@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-shmoo-remote-fee@ietf.org>, "shmoo-chairs@ietf.org" <shmoo-chairs@ietf.org>, "manycouches@ietf.org" <manycouches@ietf.org>, "suresh.krishnan@gmail.com" <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [Manycouches] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-shmoo-remote-fee-08: (with COMMENT)
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Hello Rich,

Thanks for your reply. As you know, my comments are "just" comments, but I appreciate the interaction.

See below for EV>

Regards

-éric

On 23/08/2023, 23:52, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com <mailto:rsalz@akamai.com>> wrote:


# COMMENTS




> Like Paul Wouters, I find that there is some confusions between 'free option'
and 'fee waiver', e.g., the I-D could clearly mention that "fee waivers" is
just one way to have a "free option".


Does this work?
-there should always be a free option to make the process as open as possible. Having said that,
+there should always be a free option to make the process as open as possible.
+(One example of implementing this is to have the ability to request a fee
+waiver.)
+Having said that,

EV> much clearer. Thanks.

> ## Section 2


> `must be kept confidential.` is probably underspecified: could it be visible to
> the IETF secretariat ? to the IETF LLC ?


As Mirja has said, we want to avoid getting too much into implementation details, so specifying this seems wrong and subject to change if other mechanisms are used.


> ## Section 3


>`If unlimited free remote participation is determined` by who ?


By those responsible for the financial viability of the meeting and the IETF overall. I hope that is clear from context especially since the tail end of the sentence refers to the LLC.


> `assessment of eligibility` to what ?


Again, I think context provides enough detail, as seen in the next line of the sentence.

EV> for the 3 points above, we disagree about the context being enough. My own taste is to be crisp in the statements.

> ## Authors' Addresses


> It seems that Rich's address is missing.


Strange, looks okay locally. Oh well, something the RPC can address if necessary.


EV> possibly, a rendering issue indeed, RPC will take care of it if the metadata is there.








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