Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib-04
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Mon, 11 February 2013 18:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib-04
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Thanks. I just cleared my DISCUSS. Regards, Benoit > Hi Benoit, > > A updated 06 version of the draft was just submitted. I have inline > comments below. > >>>>>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:09:42 +0100, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> said: > BC> Hi Michael, Thanks for addressing the MIB doctor points. > > >> > DH> The Errors table contains counters that represent "the number of > DH> XXX errors received." This description seems to indicate that > DH> counters start at zero (and implicitly reset to zero on a > DH> discontinuity). An NMS developer certainly might interpret this > DH> text as indicating zero-based counters. I think if there is an > DH> assumption these are zero-based, there are TC-s that could be > DH> used to show that assumption. OTOH, counters typically are not > DH> zero-based because if errors occur during system startup, the > DH> counter might be initialized partway through the startup and not > DH> reflect all the errors that occurred during the startup phase. I > DH> think this table would benefit from a discussion of the expected > DH> initial values (zero or unpredictable/implementation-dependent) > DH> and the nature of expected discontinuities, so NMS developers > DH> can be sure to understand the relevant assumptions. (is the > DH> only discontinuity a restart of the management system? What > DH> about rollovers? Are all these error counters not preserved > DH> across system restarts? Or can an implementation choose to > DH> preserve them across resets to enhance debugging history?) Some > DH> of this discussion would seem to apply to all the error > DH> counters; if that is true of all current counters and should be > DH> true for an potentially new counters added to this table, this > DH> type of discussion could be captured in the Table or TableEntry > DH> description. (including the discussion of > DH> rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer, which seems to apply to the whole > DH> table). > >> > >> I meant to add clarifying text to the discontinuity time (e.g. a > >> manager can only compare values pulled since the discontinuity > >> time...). But double checking now, I didn't get this change into > >> the current draft. > BC> The document would really benefit from this clarification. > BC> Please post a new version with this improvement, and I'll clear > BC> my DISCUSS. > > I added text to the rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer object: > > For objects that use rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer to indicate > discontinuity, only values received since the time indicated by > rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer are comparable to each other. A manager > should take the possibility of rollover into account when > calculating difference values. > > DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerId would benefit from a reference. > >> meant to, but not added > BC> It would nice to add it, along with above improvement. > > I did add a reference clause to this object (as well as fixing a > spelling nit mentioned by Brian Carpenter). > > Thanks, > Mike > >
- [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf-sid… David Harrington
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf… Benoit Claise
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf… Michael Baer
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf… Michael Baer
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf… Benoit Claise
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf… Benoit Claise
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf… Michael Baer
- Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf… Benoit Claise