Re: [midcom] Normative References in draft-ietf-midcom-mib-09

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Fri, 10 November 2006 18:23 UTC

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Hi,

After some more discussion there may be another way that actually is 
better. As the MIB is do dependent on the semantics the proposal would 
be to retarget RFC 3989 to proposed standard. Then we keep that as 
normative reference. The other two (RFC 3303, RFC 3404) both are moved 
to informational part of the reference list. Any comments on this?

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund

Magnus Westerlund skrev:
> Hi
> 
> In the IESG evaluation of the document it was realized that there was 
> three normative references (RFC 3303, RFC 3404, RFC 3989) that are to 
> informative documents. These are not allowed unless it can be accepted 
> under RFC3967.
> 
> I have discussed this with the authors and from our point of view RFC 
> 3304 can be changed informative reference, it is not required for 
> implementing the protocol. However RFC 3989 is clearly required to be 
> implemented and that it seems that also RFC 3303 can be consider to be a 
> normative reference. Is anyone in the WG disagreeing about this 
> classification?
> 
> If the WG is agreeing on a classification that contains any 
> informational RFCs in the normative section the document will require a 
> new IETF last call that calls out these downrefs.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Magnus Westerlund
> 
> Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVA/A
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