Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-02; respond by 10 Feb 2010
Barry Leiba <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com> Mon, 01 February 2010 21:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-02; respond by 10 Feb 2010
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> This makes two (in my mind) false assumptions. > > The first is the assumption that the majority of servers will offer both > substring and fuzzy searching; or even that the majority of servers that > have fuzzy searching will offer substring searching. > > The second is that clients desire to control this. I don't think anyone thinks clients want to control it; they think users do. This user, at least, would certainly like to. There are many times when I *do* want to disable the fuzzy search or the word-bounded search that the server does today. Very, very much. But I absolutely agree with Mark's characterization of the first assumption. The commercial IMAP server I'm most familiar with, IBM's Lotus Domino server, does its own style of search that we'd definitely call "fuzzy". If you search for "walked", you'll also get matches for "walk", "walks", and "walking". And if you search for "tall", you'll match "taller" but not "tally". I can not imagine that they will ever change that, nor that they might offer an alternative. [I couldn't speak for them when I worked there, and I certainly can't now, but I think this is a very safe bet.] Similarly, I'd be surprised if Google should offer a strict substring search as an option. Do we think they plan to? And, so, however much users might like the option, do we *really* think they'll get it in practice? Barry
- [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-02; r… Barry Leiba
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Barry Leiba
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Mark Crispin
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Timo Sirainen
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Barry Leiba
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Mark Crispin
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Timo Sirainen
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Barry Leiba
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Barry Leiba
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Mark Crispin
- Re: [MORG] WGLC on draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-0… Barry Leiba