Re: [Mtgvenue] Where we are, post #1

Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> Mon, 30 January 2017 23:50 UTC

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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:50:37 -0800
From: Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com>
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2017, Melinda Shore wrote:

> Hi, all:
> 

[snip]
> 
> Stephen was concerned about the definition of "unfiltered" in section
> 1.2.  Eliot also thinks this needs elaboration so that potential hosts
> will understand what's expected.  His proposed text:

"Note that "unfiltered" in this context is meant to allow for all 
manner of forms of communications, as the IETF often makes first use 
of its own technologies at our meetings.  In addition, to facilitate 
the business of the IETF it is also necessary for participants to hold 
confidential discussions with their businesses, customers, and 
partners."  appears acceptable.  

However, his proposed text "At the same time, IETF participants are 
expected to make use of the network in a manner consistent with local 
laws and customs." received some pushback and needs further 
discussion.

***OLE: The specifics having to do with our meeting/venue network
are published in a *separate* document which is maintained by the NOC
folks and this allows a host to say "we comply with the network
requirements of the IETF" in a public forum without having to say
something much more explicit which might well get them in trouble
with local authorticies. This is a feature, not a bug.

With respect to "...consistent with local laws and customs..." that's
a rather tricky detail that might be better left unsaid. As an 
example, the very handy "Find my iPhone" app does not work in Korea
for some "privacy" reason, but I can imagine it might work if using
a VPN....


Ole