Re: [Mtgvenue] Issue 20: s/IAOC/IASA?
Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com> Wed, 07 June 2017 14:01 UTC
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From: Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
CC: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, "mtgvenue@ietf.org" <mtgvenue@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Issue 20: s/IAOC/IASA?
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Just splitting this out into it's own thread. Please continue discussing.
On 7 Jun 2017, at 4:09, Eliot Lear wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> I agree with both you and Brian that the current text is quite loose
> with the terms, but it's probably worth a bit more than a substitution.
> People blew up all over the IAOC for one particular decision, because
> most people beyond those who play Inside Baseball actually understand
> the difference between the IASA, IAD, and the IAOC. And so some
> explanation is needed, and I'm a little concerned about getting too much
> into the IAOC's business in this draft, lest they reorganize themselves
> (say, with IASA 2.0) and then have to update this draft again (which I
> will bet NO ONE will want to do). And so, as best we can I wonder if
> the right thing to do is to use some words like "the IAOC MUST see
> that..." {$X} (happens/doesn't happen).
>
> Eliot
>
> On 6/7/17 8:54 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>
>> On 07/06/17 03:17, Pete Resnick wrote:
>>> - Issue 20, "s/IASA/IAOC?" (which is actually titled backwards, since
>>> the suggestion was to change IAOC to IASA pretty much throughout): Not
>>> enough to go on.
>> I think Brian has a good point there - the draft is describing
>> stuff intended to be overseen by the IAOC but that is perceived
>> to be done by the IAOC. It's not clear to me which of those the
>> members of the IAOC and it's committees consider to be the case
>> in practice.
>>
>> So I reckon yes it'd be correct to make the substitution.
>>
>> That will however make the draft harder to understand for all of
>> us who've forgotten the IASA acronym, but who (like me;-) have
>> and recall others having whined at the IAOC periodically, so I'd
>> also be fine with just adding text that explains that when we say
>> IAOC in this draft, we maybe mean IASA, and that that contradiction
>> is being considered elsewhere.
>>
>> S.
>>
>>
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- Re: [Mtgvenue] Issue 20: s/IAOC/IASA? Pete Resnick
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Issue 20: s/IAOC/IASA? Brian E Carpenter