Re: [Mud] Side meeting at the IETF Montreal - call for agenda items

[Eliot Lear <[e-mail]>]

Good conversation to have in Montreal.

> On 30 Jun 2019, at 18:49, Michael Richardson <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> Eliot Lear <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> A number of people have contacted me about meeting in Montreal, and
>> that they wouldn’t be available after Tuesday.  Conveniently, Monday
>> morning is reserved for side meetings.  I propose we take advantage of
>> this from 9:00 - 10:30 (yes, this bleeds into the 1st session).
> 
> It bleeds into teep, and I'm curious about the loops BOF, so I probably take
> off at the appointed time.
> 
>> I’ve combined MUD and IoT Onboarding, just to save time, as there is
>> substantial community overlap.  That’s because the spaces are clearly
>> related, one being authentication of the device the other being network
>> authorization.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
>> This, then, is a call for agenda items.  I have a few of my own, but
>> would prefer to hear from others first.  Also, are you ok with the
>> Monday morning time slot and keeping these activities together?
> 
>> Ps: reminder: side meetings are not “official” anything.  Just a
>> gathering of people with a common interest.  However, the meeting will
>> run under the IPR rules of the IETF, regardless.  All are invited.
> 
> So, I'm not sure if you are asking for BRSKI items, or IoT onboarding items in general.
> 
> 1) Under BRSKI for non-ANIMA ACP uses, there is the question about open/closed
>   registrars, and operational considerations of total sales channel integration
>   (MASA knows the customers), vs retail integration (no knowledge of
>   customers).  There are probably areas of grey in between that might be
>   worth enumerating.
> 
> 2) There is a similar question for MUD, which is how does the MUD controller
>   arrive at trust criteria for the signatures.  This is the
>   enterprise/customer side of the above story: do you know who you are
>   buying from?
>   This relates to the discussion we have had about controllers: I think if
>   we could pin down the quality of the signatures, we could say more.
> 
> 3) MUD Operational considerations for devices that can grow "skills"
> 
> Not really a topic exactly: but how do we get towards the point where we can test
> MUD/BRSKI integration.
> 
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> Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>, Sandelman Software Works
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