Re: [multipathtcp] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-mptcp-experience-06: (with COMMENT)

Mirja Kühlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Wed, 14 September 2016 16:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [multipathtcp] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-mptcp-experience-06: (with COMMENT)
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With a very quick look, these seems all to be theoretical analysis while this 
draft is documenting actual deployment experience. Further the first hit here 
is an existing RFC, second hit is theoretical, and third hit is from the main 
authors of this draft which is part of the basis of this draft... so still 
the same answer.

Mirja


On 14.09.2016 17:34, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
>
> On 14/09/16 16:25, Mirja Kühlewind wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> actually the answer might be 'no'. But I guess the reason why they don't
>> talk about it, is because we don't have any reports here.
>
> Hmm, it seems that scholar at least has some references
> to stuff [1]. I've no clue if those're useful or not
> though - did anyone go looking? Be a shame to not include
> some if they were useful/relevant.
>
> Ta,
> S.
>
> [1]
> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2015&q=MPTCP+security&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5
>
>>
>> Mirja
>>
>>
>> On 14.09.2016 12:47, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for
>>> draft-ietf-mptcp-experience-06: No Objection
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> COMMENT:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> I was a bit sad that there was no reporting of
>>> experiences with the security aspects of MPTCP.  Have
>>> we really learned nothing worth saying about that?
>>> Have we really seen no attacks on, or tailored to,
>>> MPTCP? It seems odd that the answer to both questions
>>> is "no."
>>>
>>>
>