Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and mif
Hui Deng <denghui02@gmail.com> Thu, 29 January 2009 10:11 UTC
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From: Hui Deng <denghui02@gmail.com>
To: marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>
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Subject: Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and mif
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Hi, Marcelo For yoru question about what mif's scope at the moment, Jari already made the comments on http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mif/current/msg00050.html There are also several PS drafts you could refer to: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-blanchet-mif-problem-statement-00.txt http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hui-ip-multiple-connections-ps-01.txt http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-multipleif-mn-pb-statement-00.txt thanks -Hui 2009/1/29 marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es> > Hi Hong, > > what is the scope of MIF? > I mean, in the bof wiki page there is no charter proposed, is there a > charter somewhere? > In particular, is MIF going to work in MIPv6/NEMO related issues? > > Regards, marcelo > > > Hong Yong-Geun escribió: > >> Hi, Marcelo. >> Thanks for your comments. >> I agree that the current MEXT WG charter already has several items about >> supporting multiple interfaces. >> My documents are old version which were submitted to monami6 WG at 64th >> IETF meeting and they were >> not updated properly. So, it seems that some contents are similar to the >> works in MEXT WG. >> I will update my documents to focus on mif's scope. >> It is appreciate to understand that (even though the scope of mif is not >> fixed) mif has different directions to >> MEXT. >> Best regards. >> Yong-Geun. >> >> -----원본 메시지----- >> *From:* "marcelo bagnulo braun" <marcelo@it.uc3m.es> >> *From Date:* 2009-01-28 오후 6:40:09 >> *To:* "Hong Yong-Geun" <yghong@etri.re.kr> >> *Cc:* "mext@ietf.org" <mext@ietf.org>, "mif@ietf.org" <mif@ietf.org>, " >> julien.laganier.IETF@googlemail.com" <julien.laganier.IETF@googlemail.com>, >> "denghui02@gmail.com" <denghui02@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and mif >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> In the current MEXT charter there are several items about supporting >> multiple interfaces, including the following two: >> >> - A document explaining the motivations for a node using multiple >> interfaces and the scenarios where it may end up with multiple >> global addresses on its interfaces [Informational] >> >> - An analysis document explaining what are the limitations for >> mobile hosts using multiple simultaneous Care-of Addresses and Home >> Agent addresses using Mobile IPv6, whether issues are specific to >> Mobile IPv6 or not [Informational]. >> >> I think this is very similar to the scope of one of you documents at >> least, so i would find very strange that the same work is chartered in >> two different working groups. >> >> Moreover, we do have wg documents for these two, but we find very hard >> to find reviewers for those, which makes me think that there is not much >> interest on these. So, if you find a more motivated crew to do the work, >> that would be great, we can either do it in mext or soemwhere else, if >> people feels that needs to be done, but that is certainly not the >> feeling i am getting from the input in mext >> >> Regards, marcelo >> >> >> >> Hong Yong-Geun escribi?: >> > >> > Hi, all in MEXT and mif. >> > >> > > >> > In IETF mif (Multiple Interface) mailing list >> > (_https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif_ >> > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif>), >> > >> > we now discuss the host which would like to use multiple interfaces. >> > >> > I understand that MEXT WG is also related to the use of multiple >> > interfaces of a host >> > using Mobile IPv6 or a mobile router using NEMO Basic Support and >> > their variants >> > >> > MEXT WG is focuing on monami6 related topic (multiple CoA, Multiple >> > HoA, and Multple HA, etc.,) >> > and extedning Mobile IPv6 and NEMO for these, but mif is not related >> > to this direction. >> > In mif, source address selection, routing and DNS control protocol are >> > consideration items >> > due to multiple interfaces of a host. >> > >> > > >> > For mif's scope, Jari Arkko made some comments and classification of >> > problems. >> > >> > _http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mif/current/msg00050.html_ >> > >> > Among these classification which includes access selection, split DNS, >> > configuration reconciliation, >> > routing, address selection, tunnel multihoming, and the communication >> > way between the host and >> > the network about their policies regarding all of the above, Jari said >> > that access selection is already >> > coverd in RFC 5113 and tunnel multihoming is already covered in MEXT >> > WG work items. >> > >> > > >> > At monami6 WG in 64th IETF meetinng, I submitted and presented two >> > Internet Drafts. >> > >> > - Analysis of multiple interfaces in a Mobile Node >> > >> > _http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-multipleif-mn-pb-statement-00.txt_ >> > >> > - Virtual network interface for multiple interfaces in a Mobile node >> > using Mobile IPv6 >> > >> > _http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-virtualif-mn-mipv6-00.txt_ >> > <http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-virtualif-mn-mipv6-00.txt> >> > >> > Because these two drafts were not in the monami6 WG's scope and >> > virtual network interface draft was >> > >> > implementation specific, there were not adoped in monami6 WG's work >> > items. The intentions of two drafts >> > are supporting multiple interfaces of a host without extending Mobile >> > IPv6/NEMO. >> > >> > > >> > I think that multiple interfaces problems of a host are related to >> > both Mobile IP/NEMO specific issues and >> > general network issues. Mobile IP/NEMO specific issues are related to >> > extending of Mobile IP/NEMO and >> > these are already studied in MEXT WG and general network issues which >> > were not related to >> > Mobile IP/NEMO could be studied in mif. As same manner, I think that >> > my drafts could be discussed and >> > developed in mif. In the first draft (Analysis document), I classified >> > multiple interface problems into >> > Mobile IPv6-sepcific issues, General network issues, and heterogeneous >> > environment issues. >> > >> > > >> > Including Hui Deng in mif, with regarding to these drafts, they want >> > to hear comments from MEXT WG's point of view, >> > because it seems that these drafts are quite related to monami6/MEXT >> > WG. So, I ask MEXT to review whether there are >> > >> > some overlap between MEXT works and my drafts or not. >> > >> > It is appreciate to give comments. >> > >> > > >> > Best regards. >> > >> > Yong-Geun. >> > >> >> >
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- [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and m… Hong Yong-Geun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Thierry Ernst
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Hong Yong-Geun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Hong Yong-Geun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Hui Deng
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Hong Yong-Geun
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … Hong Yong-Geun